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Just now, Pollito said:

I have an eating disorder

Like most people here. How do we have a subforum for plastic surgery but not one for mental health?

There's no shame in tackling one of the root symptoms of obesity (not necessarily root cause, mind you).

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5 minutes ago, MiniGastricBypassDude said:

(not necessarily root cause, mind you).

I think this is what the kids call a trigger

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1 minute ago, Pollito said:

I think this is what the kids call a trigger

As I say when Americans give me dirty looks for smoking --- it's okay, I'm European! :D

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2 minutes ago, MiniGastricBypassDude said:

As I say when Americans give me dirty looks for smoking --- it's okay, I'm European! :D

Oh smoking doesn't cause cancer in Europe or Asia, that's settled science.

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20 minutes ago, Pollito said:

I think this is what the kids call a trigger

Wait, what?

I say trigger! Lol and I’m def not a kid (at least not in chronological age..I’m 50 my friend)

Oh, and FYI, smoking doesn’t cause cancer in Canada as well.

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1 hour ago, lizonaplane said:

and it doesn't stop you from eating "slider foods", things like chips, Cookies, etc that you can easily eat a lot of without feeling full.

So this is great information, and why I'm here. I was under the impression a slider food was a food that didn't stay in the stomach very long and so doesn't give you the benefit of pouch restriction, like a milkshake or...I don't know, Soup. Also, while I'm here, what is "excess weight".and how is it calculated? Is it weight above healthy BMI?

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1 hour ago, Pollito said:

So this is great information, and why I'm here. I was under the impression a slider food was a food that didn't stay in the stomach very long and so doesn't give you the benefit of pouch restriction, like a milkshake or...I don't know, Soup. Also, while I'm here, what is "excess weight".and how is it calculated? Is it weight above healthy BMI?

Yes, milkshakes and Soup (and other liquids) slide right through the pouch, but most of us define "slider foods" as highly processed foods, mostly carbs and sweets that almost dissolve in the mouth so by the time they get to your stomach they just don't fill you up like Protein and vegetables do. I know I can be full from a dinner of protein but if I want to, I can still eat cake, Cookies, pretzels, etc. I try really hard to eat only a very small amount of these and not frequently.

"Excess weight" is defined as your highest weight minus your "ideal body weight" (ideal body weight is often quite low in the "healthy" BMI range, but some doctors will change "ideal body weight" to be a BMI of 25. So, most people say that with sleeve you can expect to lose 55-65% of your excess body weight whereas with bypass, it's likely 65-70% (estimates vary and these are only averages). So, if you weigh 150kg, and your ideal body weight is 75kg, then you could expect to lose about 65% of that 125 kg (the excess weight above ideal body weight): (150-75)x.65 or about 81.25kg, but again, this is only an average. You may lose more or less than that.

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2 hours ago, lizonaplane said:

So, if you weigh 150kg, and your ideal body weight is 75kg, then you could expect to lose about 65% of that 125 kg (the excess weight above ideal body weight): (150-75)x.65 or about 81.25kg, but again, this is only an average. You may lose more or less than that.

To be clear, the excess weight would be (150-75) = 75 kg and 65% of that would be (.65x75) = 48.75 kg.

(81.25 kg is 180 lbs)

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36 minutes ago, MiniGastricBypassDude said:

To be clear, the excess weight would be (150-75) = 75 kg and 65% of that would be (.65x75) = 48.75 kg.

(81.25 kg is 180 lbs)

Sorry... I was having mathing issues this morning!

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