Why the same advice over and over?

[Creekimp13 5,489]

Most of the veteran posts, lets face it.... are "Help, I've regained!"

And the response I see over and over and over and over is...

"Go back to basics...starve yourself at 1000 calories a day (or less)...start drinking protien shakes....do keto...blah blah blah"

I don't mean to criticize heartfelt advice...and I know some of ya'll are genuinely trying to help.

But why in the world would you tell someone to do the same thing over again....that didn't work the first time?

It seems nuts to me.

My two cents: see a bariatric therapist. Stop the self punishment. Stop the self sabotage. Stop the self harming extremes.

Get down to the real reasons you're addicted to food, what you're medicating with it...and work on fixing those issues.

If you do....making slow reasonable changes to your diet that have slow but steady results....will work.

You don't have to starve. You don't have to do very low calorie diets that hurt your metabolism, your bone density, and your muscle mass.

You don't have to be so freaking EXTREME.

Breathe. Make reasonable changes you can live with for a lifetime. No crash diets. They don't work. You know this. How many years experience do you have KNOWING that this approach doesn't work? Stop running from the real issues.

Edited April 8 by Creekimp13

[The Greater Fool 543]

Preach it Sister!

These 'fixes' are what we called 'crash diets' pre-op. How did they work pre-op for folks?

They are STILL crash diets. No good for you short or long term.

[summerset 4,318]

4 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

Most of the veteran posts, lets face it.... are "Help, I've regained!"

And the response I see over and over and over and over is...

"Go back to basics...starve yourself at 1000 calories a day (or less)...start drinking protien shakes....do keto...blah blah blah"

[...]

But why in the world would you tell someone to do the same thing over again....that didn't work the first time?

Give me an urgent call once you've found a way to successfully conquer that particular windmill, ok?

[Creekimp13 5,489]

You're right, summerset....getting folks to think about weight loss and disordered eating in any other way than...extreme dieting...is like hitting your head against a wall until it's bloody.

I'm not sure I care to do it anymore. The windmill wins.

And Sillykitty made a great point...many people FEEL any suggestion of doing it any other way...is criticism of what they've been doing. It isn't, but I know it's experienced that way.

There is a defensiveness that rivals politics and religion...when we talk about diets and weight loss.

Everyone is very fixed on what they believe...including me, I suppose.

I think this might be a major reason why we don't see more activity on the veteran's forum...there's a volitility that gets so negative.

And ya know? I like ya'll. I don't want to feel negative about anyone or anything here.

At some point, it's unhelpful to share your two cents, even when you try to do it carefully.

And at some point, maybe it's best to realize that.

Peace and best wishes to all.

[mi75 1,192]

Well I think that when people reach out for help from regain, they're looking for advice from others that experienced regain and what worked for them. Obviously not every approach works for every person but MANY here have found great success conquering their regain. For me, when I had regain and saw my bariatric team, they told me all the things that I knew they would say- do a post opt diet, go back to Protein Shakes, Portion Control, etc. A health issue required me to achieve nutritional ketosis and that's actually what helped me lose all of my regain and more. I conquered the health issue and lost my regain and have maintained over 5 yrs.

[summerset 4,318]

5 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

The windmill wins.

Good thing is, it's not your windmill so in the end it's not your problem.

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And Sillykitty made a great point...many people FEEL any suggestion of doing it any other way...is criticism of what they've been doing.

I must have missed something. Didn't see her reply to this thread?

[Stella S 586]

I fall into the basics work to trim my regain - Water not wine, cheese not with a cracker. When I focus on water and protien I drop the weight. Removing over 30 carb works. Admiring those who do not have to continue the work!

[Jaelzion 523]

On 4/9/2021 at 2:37 AM, Stella S said:

I fall into the basics work to trim my regain - Water not wine, cheese not with a cracker. When I focus on Water and protien I drop the weight. Removing over 30 carb works. Admiring those who do not have to continue the work!

This is pretty much what I do as well. I try to respond when I see a 5 lb gain, so I won't have to deal with re-losing larger amounts. I reduce processed foods, reduce carbs, forego off-plan treats, and focus on Protein. In other words I go back to how I ate during the weight loss phase. So far, it works for me.