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8 hours ago, Zom B said:

I’m equally scared of the other way. When I was on liquids only for 2 wks I had only 2 BM’s. Upside was after them my weigh-ins felt accomplished 😂

I'm struggling with my BM's as well. My nurse says I should be going every three days.

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38 minutes ago, Latanya said:

I'm struggling with my BM's as well. My nurse says I should be going every three days.

Hi Latanya,

What was your surgery type and when did you have it?

Every 3 days? Are you going more or less? Today alone I’ve gone 3 times and they’ve been crampy and uncomfortable.

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3 hours ago, Latanya said:

I hope your body acclimates soon too. I'm surprised you're dumping at the puree stage even with following it exactly. I haven't dumped yet. I hope I never do. Would you say its like having the flu?

I hope it gets better too. It’s after midnight and I’ve had 5 incidents today. Something is wrong. Either meds or maybe my shakes or something. Purées is supposed to be easy and allow the body to heal.

it is a little like the flu. I get sweaty on my forehead, I can hear and feel stomach gurgles, sometimes gas but not always and then full body chills. The entire experience is like a roller coaster for my senses. It leaves me drained and weak.
I took at anti diarrheal finally and messaged my team. I can’t do this much longer. Day 9 or 10 straight. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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1 hour ago, Zom B said:

I hope it gets better too. It’s after midnight and I’ve had 5 incidents today. Something is wrong. Either meds or maybe my shakes or something. Purées is supposed to be easy and allow the body to heal.

it is a little like the flu. I get sweaty on my forehead, I can hear and feel stomach gurgles, sometimes gas but not always and then full body chills. The entire experience is like a roller coaster for my senses. It leaves me drained and weak.
I took at anti diarrheal finally and messaged my team. I can’t do this much longer. Day 9 or 10 straight. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Lactose intolerance? A lot of people develop it for a period of time after surgery, for some it doesn't go away

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1 hour ago, Hop_Scotch said:

Lactose intolerance? A lot of people develop it for a period of time after surgery, for some it doesn't go away

Oh! I hope that’s not it. I get a lot of my Protein from cottage cheese and Premier Protein shakes. That would be super unfortunate 😩 .

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2 hours ago, Zom B said:

I hope it gets better too. It’s after midnight and I’ve had 5 incidents today. Something is wrong. Either meds or maybe my shakes or something. Purées is supposed to be easy and allow the body to heal.

it is a little like the flu. I get sweaty on my forehead, I can hear and feel stomach gurgles, sometimes gas but not always and then full body chills. The entire experience is like a roller coaster for my senses. It leaves me drained and weak.
I took at anti diarrheal finally and messaged my team. I can’t do this much longer. Day 9 or 10 straight. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

I agree with the above commenter. It could be lactose intolerance - or maybe a reaction to an artificial sweetener in the shakes. Some people get G/I distress from certain artificial sweeteners. Unless you're eating a lot of regular sugar or fats, it's likely not true dumping.

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6 minutes ago, catwoman7 said:

I agree with the above commenter. It could be lactose intolerance - or maybe a reaction to an artificial sweetener in the shakes. Some people get G/I distress from certain artificial sweeteners. Unless you're eating a lot of regular sugar or fats, it's likely not true dumping.

I’m not eating hardly anything the last 2-3 days. Chili w/beans, deli turkey, cottage cheese, shakes. My calciums, multi V, and omeprazole and ursodiol.

I always weigh and I always log my food.

Just woke up to more cramps and diarrhea. Anyone else take Imodium AD with zero results?

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On 9/11/2020 at 2:14 PM, Latanya said:

Anyone dump? What does it feel like? Have people been able to have some sweets without dumping. Just want to see if I can ever have a cookie or something like that again.

Good Morning,

Dumping can come from many different angles but the body feelings you experience (speaking for myself because everyone is different)- I get the shakes, then I sweat and then I am on the toilet for more than 2 times in less than an hour just letting it out. I get mad at myself for .5 seconds because I should have known better and then I make a cup of green tea with some mint leaves and it helps me alot.

I hope that my description helps you assess what dumping feels like.

Missy

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On 9/11/2020 at 11:14 AM, Latanya said:

Anyone dump? What does it feel like? Have people been able to have some sweets without dumping. Just want to see if I can ever have a cookie or something like that again.

Hello. I am new here. 17 years post-op RNY.

I dump. There are two types of dumping, 'early stage' and 'late stage':

Early Stage I don't remember the effects because I don't do this much. For me, it only involves brow sweating, usually soon enough to cue me to stop eating. For me, not a big deal. Sorry, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Late Stage (for me) takes about an hour to start. I get lethargic, light headed, sleepy, and whole body flop sweaty. Then intestinal distress, then diarrhea. Recently, one of my meds also caused me to pass out and made every effect worse. All in all an exciting time I could and strive to live without.

After all this time I generally know my body's limits and go months and years between episodes. When it get's me is when I feel under the weather or haven't eaten well for days and I don't notice and adjust.

Hope this helps,

Tek

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2 hours ago, The Greater Fool said:

Hello. I am new here. 17 years post-op RNY.

I dump. There are two types of dumping, 'early stage' and 'late stage':

Early Stage I don't remember the effects because I don't do this much. For me, it only involves brow sweating, usually soon enough to cue me to stop eating. For me, not a big deal. Sorry, my memory isn't what it used to be.

Late Stage (for me) takes about an hour to start. I get lethargic, light headed, sleepy, and whole body flop sweaty. Then intestinal distress, then diarrhea. Recently, one of my meds also caused me to pass out and made every effect worse. All in all an exciting time I could and strive to live without.

After all this time I generally know my body's limits and go months and years between episodes. When it get's me is when I feel under the weather or haven't eaten well for days and I don't notice and adjust.

Hope this helps,

Tek

I hope your meds got sorted Tek! That’s scary. Thanks for sharing your long term experience with us. Definitely a new view for me.

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6 minutes ago, Zom B said:

I hope your meds got sorted Tek! That’s scary. Thanks for sharing your long term experience with us. Definitely a new view for me.

It was a one off situation. I was apparently sick, not eating much, so when I drank an overly sweet drink with my meds (that make me thirsty) everything just clobbered me.

As you likely know personally, we still learn new and exciting things to avoid. ;)

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7 hours ago, Zom B said:

Chili w/beans

This may or may not be applicable your case, but just a thought: if u are using kidney Beans in your chilli, improperly cooked kidney beans are known to cause nausea/stomach aches/vomiting a couple hours after ingesting....the culprit is some sort of toxin or other that is only destroyed after proper cooking....

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12 hours ago, Zom B said:

I hope it gets better too. It’s after midnight and I’ve had 5 incidents today. Something is wrong. Either meds or maybe my shakes or something. Purées is supposed to be easy and allow the body to heal.

it is a little like the flu. I get sweaty on my forehead, I can hear and feel stomach gurgles, sometimes gas but not always and then full body chills. The entire experience is like a roller coaster for my senses. It leaves me drained and weak.
I took at anti diarrheal finally and messaged my team. I can’t do this much longer. Day 9 or 10 straight. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

I got that dreaded gurgle with shake too 😝

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After dumping a few times, I sometimes use it as a tool when constipated. I overload on the dumping foodstuff and am cleaned out shortly. Works most of the time. Not highly recommended as the consequences can be very funky

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8 minutes ago, FishOn said:

After dumping a few times, I sometimes use it as a tool when constipated. I overload on the dumping foodstuff and am cleaned out shortly. Works most of the time. Not highly recommended as the consequences can be very funky

Me too. Don't tell, it's a secret.

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