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Ever since I was sleeved 8 days ago, my dreams have been insane. To the point where every. single. one. is vivid, memorable, and makes me wake up questioning life. Giant wolves, super-hero antics, and scifi undertones. I have never been a huge dreamer. Sure, I would have the occassional nightmare or wake up remembering some epic story, but never in my life have I had it happen pretty much every day in a row.

It's also to the point where the subjects of my dreams end up connecting to something that I discover a day or so later. My wife thinks I am becoming psychic. I don't really believe in that sort of stuff --- but there's definitely something different.

Am I going mad, or is "vivid, epic dreaming" a known side effect?

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I haven't heard or read about that...but this article suggests it can happen after upper abdominal surgery and anesthesia (I don't know - and maybe the researchers don't either - if it's the surgery or the anesthesia that causes it. I can't see the whole article, so...)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2360740

update: I have access to my former university's databases (retired staff member), so I just looked up the article (we had it - yay!). Basically, they don't know what causes it. There are several factors they considered (post-surgical trauma, endocrine reactions, anesthesia, use of opioids for pain following surgery), but any one of those factors is probably not likely to cause it. It's probably some combination. They weren't really able to figure it out and suggested further research on this. They did say that in the patients they studied, REM sleep (when you're most likely to dream) was greatly diminished for a couple of days after surgery, but then in the middle of the week post-op, it goes into overdrive for a few days (and again, they're not sure what exactly is causing that). But yes - it sounds like what you experienced does happen to some people)

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Vivid dreaming may be a result of anesthesia still in your system or even achieving REM sleep (if you previously haven't)

Just the other day i had a Jurrasic Park Style nightmare.

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Vivid dreams are not uncommon. At least for me they did stop after a while. It may have something to do with the hormonal imbalances that rapid WL can cause.

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My dreams have been indeed vivid!!! Thanks for the wealth of information I get from this forum!

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3 hours ago, Vance-666 said:

Ever since I was sleeved 8 days ago, my dreams have been insane. To the point where every. single. one. is vivid, memorable, and makes me wake up questioning life. Giant wolves, super-hero antics, and scifi undertones. I have never been a huge dreamer. Sure, I would have the occassional nightmare or wake up remembering some epic story, but never in my life have I had it happen pretty much every day in a row.

It's also to the point where the subjects of my dreams end up connecting to something that I discover a day or so later. My wife thinks I am becoming psychic. I don't really believe in that sort of stuff --- but there's definitely something different.

Am I going mad, or is "vivid, epic dreaming" a known side effect?

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I had horrible dreams until almost the end of week 3. I just thought it was me, with less than 4 hours of sleep. Fortunately, I'm retired so my best sleep happened mid-day in my recliner. I even stopped using my c-pap machine to see if that would help but it didn't. As they say it gets better.

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Yes, I think they are a by-product of early ketosis where your brain is getting major fuel from alpha-hydroxybutyrate and (ketones) and it's sayin...DUDE! Where you been all my life and how YOU doin? And then you settle down as you adjust to being in a fat burning state.

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Yes, I think they are a by-product of early ketosis where your brain is getting major fuel from alpha-hydroxybutyrate and (ketones) and it's sayin...DUDE! Where you been all my life and how YOU doin? And then you settle down as you adjust to being in a fat burning state.

Hmmmmm, interesting....

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