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Not quite beat ... but I’m on the prowl for any signs of it returning and attend a melanoma clinic every 3 months ... 😊

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Please do, you are too good and sweet and getting successful at this Weight Loss. game we all are in. I will not willingly sacrifice you to the Cancer God,, he already marked you, he will not have any more of you. I will hit him with a bolt of Righteous Indignation is He Tries!

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so... I upped my cals to closer to 800 (I've been 500 or less for the past week) and low and behold I lost 0.5-0.7lbs this morning... this is such a crazy mind-f**k of a roller-coaster.

I can't work out what my perfect food day should look like ... I will need another 85 cals of Protein for this evening just to get the protein right so I'm going to have some king prawns with ACV.... about 70 cals and 16g of protein ... yum!

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Yum, your menu looks and sounds divine! Yes it's a total mind f**k!!! LOL. You are rockin' it girl!!!

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So... I attended my first party yesterday - an 80th birthday party! Lots of nibbles, birthday cake, party food flowing all afternoon... surprisingly, I was so strict with myself!! I had about 1.5 glasses of Bollinger (first alcohol since October) a piece of parmesan and 2 slices of meat - one chicken and one ham. I had to sneak the birthday cake into my bag and then throw it away when I got home... I ate when I got home - 75g prawns, 30g of avocado, 40g cucumber, 1 scallion, 2 cherry tomatoes, cup of watercress a bit of garlic, chilli and some ACV... and this morning I've lost .9lbs!! Unbelievable! I was convinced that the champagne would have done some serious damage.

I'm arranging to see a nutritionist again - a different one this time who I hope thinks outside the box on trying to figure out what I can do to make the journey less rigid... I was also thinking of going back to my diet when I lost weight on Atkins... I was down to 5g/10g of carbs and that was successful for me... but eating at that rate isn't really practical long term... but keeping to 20g carbs which is what I'm on at the moment means I can add bits of veg onto my plate and keep that cup of hot chocolate in the evening... although I'm noticing that I don't want it every night at the moment which is fantastic!!

My head witch doesn't think I have BED anymore although I'm not convinced. She went through the BED test with me and for the moment it does look like I'm not in that place right now... she said the stats for BED after surgery were that 50% of BED folk pre-surgery didn't have it after surgery. Please god that I'm one of the 50%!

I'm feeling super charged this morning! I have one more hurdle to face tomorrow as it's another birthday event - this time lunch at a local lovely restaurant... I will have half a glass of wine and hopefully something simple from the menu like grilled chicken and salad... fingers crossed I make it! :)

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Just had a very successful baking session this morning ... cooked my first egg loaf or cloud bread or oopsy bread - it seems to have lots of names and versions on google... I used 2 eggs, 2oz cream cheese, 1oz mozzarella, 2tablespoons melted butter... baked in oven for 15 mins - perfect and SO filling... I can only eat half a portion ... let’s see what impact it has on the scales tomorrow!! 🥺

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And one portion is 216cals but I could only manage half a portion

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I'm not complaining at all, but I'm completely confused about the behaviour of my metabolism this last week!! I've lost 3.1lbs!! And that's even when I've had half a champagne flute of champagne on Friday at an 80th birthday party and about 1.5 glasses of sauvignon blanc (maybe closer to 2 glasses) yesterday at an 80th lunch!! When I got home last night I was feeling quite tipsy, so I ate some king prawns marinated in parsley & garlic and some low fat grated cheese - splashed some ACV over it! Thank goodness I reached for the foods on my plan! Was given another piece of birthday cake to take home which I will throw away today. I didn't even hanker over the cake last night!

My food choices at the lunch were great - I had 2 oysters for a starter and then a simple, but juicy thick piece of cod (maybe about 3 or 4oz) and just some lettuce leaves - I hardly ate any lettuce as I was stuffed.

And... I wore a skirt!! first time of wearing a skirt for 6 years!

I really wish I understood my metabolism better... thank you all for your amazing support. :)

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2 hours ago, Alpaca55 said:

And that's even when I've had half a champagne flute of champagne on Friday at an 80th birthday party and about 1.5 glasses of sauvignon blanc (maybe closer to 2 glasses) yesterday at an 80th lunch!! When I got home last night I was feeling quite tipsy, so I ate some king prawns marinated in parsley & garlic and some low fat grated cheese - splashed some ACV over it!

Why is this so surprising? The calorie count of the items you listed is by far not enough to have a big impact on a whole week's deficit if the deficits is really aggressive (and it usually is on this board), let alone cancel it out.

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4 hours ago, Alpaca55 said:

I'm not complaining at all, but I'm completely confused about the behaviour of my metabolism this last week!! I've lost 3.1lbs!! And that's even when I've had half a champagne flute of champagne on Friday at an 80th birthday party and about 1.5 glasses of sauvignon blanc (maybe closer to 2 glasses) yesterday at an 80th lunch!! When I got home last night I was feeling quite tipsy, so I ate some king prawns marinated in parsley & garlic and some low fat grated cheese - splashed some ACV over it! Thank goodness I reached for the foods on my plan! Was given another piece of birthday cake to take home which I will throw away today. I didn't even hanker over the cake last night!

My food choices at the lunch were great - I had 2 oysters for a starter and then a simple, but juicy thick piece of cod (maybe about 3 or 4oz) and just some lettuce leaves - I hardly ate any lettuce as I was stuffed.

And... I wore a skirt!! first time of wearing a skirt for 6 years!

I really wish I understood my metabolism better... thank you all for your amazing support. :)

I’m not going to slam this board or judge how people work their plans. To each their own. Do what works for you.

You’re doing fantastic!

Dialing in your plan takes time. You are upping your calories and getting results. All surgeons’ instructions vary. At Six months out with the sleeve, I was at 900 to 1000 calories. Find your range that works with your body physiology and your health issues. When in doubt, ask your team.

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It can be a slow but moving road. Bodies in pain or otherwise under attack want fat reserves. Very little research on WLS with Comoros conditions Know it has been done and one can choose not to be average. We are the exception

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I’m really excited for your loss!! I was in the same boat, scared to death to up my calories when my nut told me to. It took me days to try because basically I was basing my info on what I read on here and not taking HER advice. The very professional I was paying to lead me through this . She thought my body was in starvation mode at my very low calories. Same. When I upped them I started seeing results . At the moment I’m not seeing those drops and I think I’m too early to already be in maintenance so I’m taking a hard look again to see what can be tweaked . Again, congratulations and enjoy celebrating again today👍🏻

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      Worst. Dumping. Ever. Last. Night.
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      1. MrsGamgee

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    • MrsGamgee

      Well, long time no see. 
      It's been a rough couple of weeks. I should have been expecting the other shoe to drop after having it so easy for the first three weeks post op. I was getting my water and protein easily, had no pain, nausea, or vomiting.
      But as soon as the soft foods really started in earnest I started having problems. Pain, foamies, slimeys, vomiting galore. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it. Something that I ate easily yesterday causes pain and vomiting after the first bite today. Sometimes it's my pills, other times they go down easy. I just don't get it. 
      I'm trying to stay positive. I know this is a season in my life, and things will eventually even out. I'm just so tired of being afraid to eat, not knowing what kind of response my body will have. I'm mostly hitting my protein target, thanks in large part to protein shakes (which I hate, but look at as medicine). I missed my water targets by a lot over the weekend, due mostly to feeling awful, which I know is a terrible cycle... throw up, don't feel like drinking anything, get dehydrated, get constipated, feel like crap, repeat. 
      The three-week stall is also still here. I thought I had busted through it, but I've been bouncing between 216-219 for the last two and a half weeks, which is a contributing factor to my mood and frustration level. And add in wee-lings who are going crazy with end of the school year insanity, friends with busy schedules who I haven't been able to see in weeks, and I'm an unhappy girl. 
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      1. ms.sss

        hope things get better with the slowing down and the water-prioritizing. keep us posted :1007_hearts:

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      2. FluffyChix

        Oh wow. Just read of your struggles! So sorry to hear it hon! ((hugs)) It's no fun when the stalls hit, makes bearing other parts of this journey really tough. Added to the fact that most of us experience mood swings/sadness that is usually transitory for most of us. But it still just makes it that much harder.

        I promise the stall will break. If that helps? ((hugs))

        Also, maybe concentrate on upping your water and hitting it consistently? The reason I say that is cuz it will make eating that much easier/pleasant. And the up side to that is with every real meal you have, you're training your tool to accept solid foods again. And being well hydrated makes your pouch less "tricky" and finicky. You know?

        Try varying the temperature of the fluids you drink. I remember cold water was not my friend. I did better on room temp or warm liquids.

        Also, the protein drinks may be contributing a little to your stall. I know I lost better after I really reduced them to very little. I'm very IR, and whey protein isolate is very insulinogenic.

        Hang in there. I promise, in 2-3 weeks, things will feel so much better!!

      3. MrsGamgee

        Thanks @FluffyChix! I know the stall will break, it has to eventually given I'm only consuming 700ish calories a day and I am trying to be active every day. I confess it's hard to be motivated to go for a walk though when I feel like crap.

        Cold water seems to be better for me right now... icy anything makes my tummy happy. It's when my water gets to room temp that it is harder to get down. But I am committed to getting my water in. It's so funny, before surgery I never had a problem with water. Today I decided that I won't count my 'other fluids' as part of my water total... they have to be over and above my target.

        I'm looking forward to lowering my reliance on the shakes. I really don't like them. I got clearance with my RD to cut back on them, provided I can hit at least 80g of protein without them. But I haven't been able to manage that just yet. I'm hoping in the next few weeks, provided I can get real foods to go down and stay down.

        Thanks for the encouragement!

      4. FluffyChix

        80 grams without protein shakes at your stage feels very ambitious IMHO? Are you sure she didn't mean 80g including protein drinks and food sources?

        We all heal so uniquely! :( Don't rush advancing. I know it's hard not to, but your tum will heal easier if you just listen to it and what it will and won't allow for the day.

        Gosh I so get the motivation of the scale!!! ((hugs)) With one reading I can determine my mood for the day. LOL. Then I wait a bit and have a nice poop. ;) haha Mood restored. ;) I'm ever just one solid poop away from a good mood. hehe

      5. MrsGamgee

        She was pretty clear... I asked about cutting back on them last week and I'm guessing she wanted to encourage me to continue with the protein shakes without actually saying so. Making it my decision. I have 2 shakes a day, plus some protein powder in my breakfast, so I'm hoping to maybe drop one shake a day in a couple of weeks. I'm really not into the lack of satisfaction they provide for the calories they take up in my daily totals.

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