We see them all the time. Hell, maybe we'll write one someday...

OMG, I've regained! What do I do???????

You know what I like to do?

I like to go back in that person's post history and read about their diet habits in the beginning when they were losing....get a feel for what kind of dieter they were.

And I almost always find that the re-gainers....were super strict, super disciplined, never-touch-a-carb, low calorie extremists.

And it kills me...because the advice to these folks is always the same.....get back on your super strict diet! up your protein! don't touch a carb!

And I'm sitting here shaking my head.

Why do people return to what doesn't work? Over and over and over. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?

Don't mean to just pick on our Ketovangelists....there are plenty of Passive Pollys out there who ate junk constantly, never kept track....and wonder why their weight went back up after the honeymoon.

My point is.....if a particular strategy ends in failure.....why in the world would you return to it? Why encourage someone to return to what didn't work longterm?

if the goal is longterm maintenance....why send them back to another stop-gap measure that fails them in the long run?

Ketovangelists....try something different if extremely low cal and carbs doesn't work long term for you! If you eventually lose your mind and fall off the wagon, maybe the wagon you're on doesn't fit. Try something more moderate so you can stay in control long term.

Passive Pollys....try something different! If a total lack of structure is resulting in your surgery being useless.....add some freaking framework to your diet. Work on healthy limits without going completely overboard. Be accountable.

More and more, I believe an addiction to EXTREMISM is what keeps people fat. So many of these folks are either "I must be in COMPLETE CONTROL"...or "I am helpless against my eating"....there's never any middle ground.

Stop with the extremism.

Knock that shite off.

It's hurting you.

Absolutely, especially since all the patients I provide care for are children you ignorant $#*

7 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

MIZ, I have to ask...as a nurse practitioner, do you advise all bariatric patients to drink vodka and taquila SIX WEEKS after surgery...or just the ones who like it? One or two drinks a day is great, right?

By the way....when you put your whiskey and water in a 16 ounce glass as described in your post......how many ounces of each are you using?

28 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

If you think saying....nurses must stay within the outlined scope of their practice is "derogatory and disrespectful" you have more issues than any comment here can address.

Which, actually, you've already proven.

Wishing you luck, MIZ....I have a feeling you're gonna need it. Be well.

Educating patients and discussing health issues INCLUDING OBESITY is well within the scope of practice for a registered nurse. That is a huge part of nursing education, teaching people how to take better care of themselves and helping them access assistance. You obviously don't know what you are talking about but that never stops you from showing your ignorance.

I have a history of 28 years doing a job I love in a wonderful profession...I only have issues with self absorbed, condescending people. I don't need any luck....I have a wonderful life already, just need to lose some weight to feel better and be more active. It is going very well for me

I have a feeling you are going to be right back in those size 22s before long ---better double up on those potatoes and increase the fruit to 1 1/2 tons.

Best of luck to you too!!

4 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

By the way....when you put your whiskey and Water in a 16 ounce glass as described in your post......how many ounces of each are you using?

Well you would need to check with the bartender but I think it is 1 1/2 ounces of crown and 14 1/2 ounces of ice and water. Do you want his phone number since you are so interested?

Edited July 24, 20188 yr by MIZ60

5 hours ago, Tealael said:

I really wish there were more VETS around to give us the real scoop on regain. I really want hear from people who have experience in the matter, I started a thread for it months ago, not one person responded that I could tell. I think they are all gone...

VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167

Did you post it in the Vets forum?

Vets are the only ones that usually seem to not post overly dramatic themes. Some of us wait, like big viffer , reading and wondering when the bickering will stop, mostly counting on the fiercest members moving on.
We’re still here (11+ years)working our OWN programs. Best of luck to all.

15 minutes ago, BostonWLKC said:

Did you post it in the Vets forum?

can't remember, I'm on a real computer searching for it now, the apps across all platforms are a nightmare to search within

3 minutes ago, Julie norton said:

Vets are the only ones that usually seem to not post overly dramatic themes. Some of us wait, like big viffer , reading and wondering when the bickering will stop, mostly counting on the fiercest members moving on.
We’re still here (11+ years)working our OWN programs. Best of luck to all.

i wish i could hear more of the Vet experience ... thanks for the well wishes, we're going to need it

43 minutes ago, MIZ60 said:

Educating patients and discussing health issues INCLUDING OBESITY is well within the scope of practice for a registered nurse. That is a huge part of nursing education, teaching people how to take better care of themselves and helping them access assistance. You obviously don't know what you are talking about but that never stops you from showing your ignorance.

I have a history of 28 years doing a job I love in a wonderful profession...I only have issues with self absorbed, condescending people. I don't need any luck....I have a wonderful life already, just need to lose some weight to feel better and be more active. It is going very well for me

I have a feeling you are going to be right back in those size 22s before long ---better double up on those potatoes and increase the fruit to 1 1/2 tons.

Best of luck to you too!!

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So, just stop already... please.

20 minutes ago, macadamia said:

From the forum rules and regulations:

In addition, “bashing” of individuals is prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to, statements that a person is:

• Lazy for choosing one type of weight loss surgery over another
• Unprepared for or undeserving of weight loss surgery because of
• Deserving of complications or disappointing weight loss because of their choice of weight loss surgery

Violations of these rules and consequences will be determined at the sole discretion of BariatricPal and based on individual situations. They may include, but are not limited to, the following:

• Editing or removal of the offensive post(s)
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So, just stop already... please.

And this is your business why? Do you own Bariatric Pal? Bariatric Police? No one is holding a gun to your head making you read anything on here if you don't like it or if it bothers you. Next....

Just now, MIZ60 said:

And this is your business why? Do you own Bariatric Pal? Bariatric Police? No one is holding a gun to your head making you read anything on here if you don't like it or if it bothers you. Next....

You have been reported, by me, to the people who run this forum.

When will someone step in?

VSG2017 HW 249 SW 238 CW 167

If anyone else wishes to voice their opinion to the people who run this forum, scroll all the way down to the very bottom of the page and click on "contact us." Very easy and quick.

11 minutes ago, macadamia said:

You have been reported, by me, to the people who run this forum.

---NOOOOOO!!!!! Not that!!!!!!

That is really hysterically funny to me.....sort of like tattling to the teacher. Hope it works out for you

Am I the ONLY one who wasn’t given a diet plan?? I was given a rough caloric intake count and that’s IT. I’m still stuck at 145- but yes I eat mostly anything I want in tiny amounts- except alcohol of course. I always thought people gained weight from alcohol or maybe over stuffing them self? After gastric bypass- so far, there’s no way of eating enough to gain more than 1 lb of water weight... I know this can change in 5 years?? Also- to break plateau I was thinking of All liquid protein and some chicken and lettuce? I cannot go without all sugars and carbs... it makes me crazy ... however I do eat sugar from berries. Now sure what else to try. I can’t digest most animal meats still- so anything Keto just won’t work... too much cheese won’t work either. Too bad people have to be so mean to each other and take things with such a heavy heart... ??‍♀️????