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Plenty of us who eat that way aren’t retainers either though. It’s not a road that’s doomed to fail. I think as we study and learn more we will be able to tell by your genes who will do well on what
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Kind of ironic @MIZ60 believes @Creekimp13 is a bully. "soul is ugly" "very rude queen of crappy carbs" "jump in and run your mouth. pure class" So ... @Creekimp13 has strong opinions. Tha
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How about we all just stop this thread before we go even further from “too far” .... we each have our own plan that works for us in this time frame. We need to support one another not compare one ano
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You mean being a WLS patient wouldn't be your favorite career choice? 
Just don't know if I'll always identify deeply with it (I'll always have to let doctors know of course) ... Or if it was simply a part/stage/phase/in my life
Hopefully you won't identify deeply with it for the rest of your life. People are different and everyone's boat is rocked by something else but it always gives me the creeps when people relate to themselves as some kind of disease.
"I'm an alcoholic".
"I'm a diabetic".
'I'm a food addict".
"I'm a WLS patient".
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Have you ever heard someone say "I'm a lymphomic" or "I'm a myocardial infarctionist"?
My semantics was in regards to my own post. I don’t know the actual words she used, so my words may not encompass her precisely. That’s what I meant.On 08/18/2018 at 21:30, GreenTealael said:
Active vs passive
I don’t think anyone should judge until they’ve been there, which is precisely what she did. Before she even got to goal, laid out a judgement on vets on the board.
Semantic shorthand. Brevity. Simplicity. Tradition. Lots of reasons to use that language, not always reflecting anything significant.On 08/19/2018 at 08:01, summerset said:
Hopefully you won't identify deeply with it for the rest of your life. People are different and everyone's boat is rocked by something else but it always gives me the creeps when people relate to themselves as some kind of disease.
"I'm an alcoholic".
"I'm a diabetic".
'I'm a food addict".
"I'm a WLS patient".
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Have you ever heard someone say "I'm a lymphomic" or "I'm a myocardial infarctionist"?
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We see them all the time. Hell, maybe we'll write one someday...
OMG, I've regained! What do I do???????
You know what I like to do?
I like to go back in that person's post history and read about their diet habits in the beginning when they were losing....get a feel for what kind of dieter they were.
And I almost always find that the re-gainers....were super strict, super disciplined, never-touch-a-carb, low calorie extremists.
And it kills me...because the advice to these folks is always the same.....get back on your super strict diet! up your protein! don't touch a carb!
And I'm sitting here shaking my head.
Why do people return to what doesn't work? Over and over and over. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
Don't mean to just pick on our Ketovangelists....there are plenty of Passive Pollys out there who ate junk constantly, never kept track....and wonder why their weight went back up after the honeymoon.
My point is.....if a particular strategy ends in failure.....why in the world would you return to it? Why encourage someone to return to what didn't work longterm?
if the goal is longterm maintenance....why send them back to another stop-gap measure that fails them in the long run?
Ketovangelists....try something different if extremely low cal and carbs doesn't work long term for you! If you eventually lose your mind and fall off the wagon, maybe the wagon you're on doesn't fit. Try something more moderate so you can stay in control long term.
Passive Pollys....try something different! If a total lack of structure is resulting in your surgery being useless.....add some freaking framework to your diet. Work on healthy limits without going completely overboard. Be accountable.
More and more, I believe an addiction to EXTREMISM is what keeps people fat. So many of these folks are either "I must be in COMPLETE CONTROL"...or "I am helpless against my eating"....there's never any middle ground.
Stop with the extremism.
Knock that shite off.
It's hurting you.