Be careful of anyone who has THE ANSWER:)

[frust8 963]

I'll confess, I am not currently logging although I have the My Fitness pal app. Why?, to be honest I have been pummled and jerked around on this journey that I almost felt like it didn't matter anymore. Once it really picks up speed, I meet the surgeon and the immediate staff personally, all I've met so far besides the seminar presenters is the receptionists at the front desk. I've looked over the pictures and bio of the 2 surgeons, I know which one I would prefer, but honestly,I'd take either one. I'll tell you guys later if I Got my choice,okay?

I just want a conclusion to this all, I started in August 2015 to seek this, I feel like I've wasted my valuable time tilting at windmills when I should have had my surgery and done. Hey hang with me, they say it ain't over until the fat lady sings.[emoji351] Well I'm not through yodeling yet![emoji354][emoji14]

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[logicwand 269]

4 hours ago, frust8 said:

I'll confess, I am not currently logging although I have the My Fitness pal app. Why?, to be honest I have been pummled and jerked around on this journey that I almost felt like it didn't matter anymore. Once it really picks up speed, I meet the surgeon and the immediate staff personally, all I've met so far besides the seminar presenters is the receptionists at the front desk. I've looked over the pictures and bio of the 2 surgeons, I know which one I would prefer, but honestly,I'd take either one. I'll tell you guys later if I Got my choice,okay?

I just want a conclusion to this all, I started in August 2015 to seek this, I feel like I've wasted my valuable time tilting at windmills when I should have had my surgery and done. Hey hang with me, they say it ain't over until the fat lady sings. Well I'm not through yodeling yet!

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Did you get an appt. with either surgeon yet? What's your plan looking like now? You're aka kakatlady right?

[Seahawks Fan 771]

9 hours ago, FluffyChix said:

Nice.

Well one thing I do know. Ok, I know exactly three things.

The first thing I know for a fact is that I know exactly Jack sh*t.

The second thing I know is that I adore to baffle with bullsh*t.

The last thing I know, is when in doubt, I will absolutely pull sh*t outta my ass.

And what it all boils down to is I'm full of crap, and listen to my advice at your own peril.

FluffyChix is my friend!

[brookie 89]

Amen Creekimp13.I luv reading everyone’s stories,experiences,& advice.i take it all in & take what is gonna b useful & wk for me.This world would b a boring place if we all were the same.Despite me being overweight part of my life or up & dwn on the scale, i always tell everyone who may b down about themselves ,there is only one of u,remember that,u are unique & special.its important to get healthy,its nice to look good in your clothes,b able to do all the things u havent been able to do for awhile,but dont forget who u are & whats on the inside either.

[frust8 963]

Yep logicwand, B.P.and I had trouble with me signing in one day. After trying everything I could think,of to get back in I said,"ooh you frust8 me "and they ,let me back in good standing with a new nom de plume. Yep but I'm still doing business at the same bariatric roadstand. Some days I'm barely literate electronically but doggone if I'm still loveable as all get out.[emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]

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[Mattymatt 491]

19 hours ago, Creekimp13 said:

One thing I've noticed reading this board for a while, is that we've all got a lot of valuable insight. Some amazing success stories here. Some amazing works in progress. Really good people with some terrific advice.

But we all have a lot of prejudices, too, about what works and what doesn't, and what would really help people if they only listened! LOL

And there is nothing quite like being on a stall, or being hungry, or learning to cope without your favorite lifelong coping mechanism....to make you grouchy and indignant about why people stubbornly won't listen.

Can we agree that not even the doctors have this crap figured out to any kind of consensus?

Some of us have had terrific success with eating Keto. Some of us eat a buttload of carbs and do great.

Some of us are exercise maniacs. Some of us are working hard to get to 5000 steps a day.

Some of us won't touch a taboo empty calorie treat food...because it's a slippery slope that shouldn't be tempted. Some of us feel the need to master eating taboo foods in moderation to prove that we are in control and have "conquered" food.

Some of us eat 600 calories a day. Some of us eat 1200 a day.

Some of us are ok with moderately consuming alcohol. Some of us are not.

Some of us are horrified by artificial sweeteners. Some of us use them by the boatload.

And here's the really shocking part:

People in BOTH CAMPS on all of these points...have been doing really well.

How cool is that?

The more I listen to all the different stories, the more convinced I am that there are a LOT of ways up this mountain. (Also cool!)

Here's another interesting question...

What's success?

For some folks, success is having a low normal BMI, and being an athlete.

For some folks, success is fitting a certain size, looking a certain way, feeling attractive, getting perfect plastics and looking like a model at the end.

For some folks, success is hitting some other goal. Being able to fit in an airplane seat, Being able to play with kids and be active.

For some folks, success is getting diabetes and blood pressure and other health concerns under control.

For some folks, success is weighing under 200 pounds and not sweating it much beyond that.

For some folks, success is being mobile, being independent, going back to work, and being able to take care of themselves.

There are a lot of different versions of what success looks like. And not everyone's gonna want the same thing.

What your group of doctors says....I guarantee you....will not be anything like what another group of doctors says.

There are no hard fast answers about what works and what doesn't. What we've got...are a lot of valuable personal experiences with a LOT of different programs.

All worth sharing.

But no one has THE answer for everyone:)

Sometimes I hear....but what about the newbies? Don't we owe it to them to set a good example?

No, we really don't. We owe them our honesty. And we owe them the credit they deserve...to do their homework, read a LOT of stuff, consider all the various opinions about everything.... and figure out what they believe and what works for them:)

Just my $.02

Opinions...as always....will vary:)

Here Here! Great post. I think success is just simply getting healthier. I think our definitions of success change over time as we reach personal goals. Right now, success is simply no more Metformin, Victoza, and Lantus Insulin. Those three meds made daily life rather unpleasant.

[frust8 963]

Since you are discussing answers you 2, a trivia one. Canada is no longer minting pennies. They decided a while back it was no longer economically feasible. So there you no longer have .02 cents worth, have to round up to .05, which are magnetic while US ones are not. They have so much nickel in the Precambrian Shield they can afford to place enough in coinage. And nickel like most ferrous metals is magnetic. So see on that subject I DO have the ANSWER! Pffft![emoji21]

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[NewbieLife19 6]

On 3/19/2018 at 12:21 PM, Creekimp13 said:

One thing I've noticed reading this board for a while, is that we've all got a lot of valuable insight. Some amazing success stories here. Some amazing works in progress. Really good people with some terrific advice.

But we all have a lot of prejudices, too, about what works and what doesn't, and what would really help people if they only listened! LOL

And there is nothing quite like being on a stall, or being hungry, or learning to cope without your favorite lifelong coping mechanism....to make you grouchy and indignant about why people stubbornly won't listen.

Can we agree that not even the doctors have this crap figured out to any kind of consensus?

Some of us have had terrific success with eating Keto. Some of us eat a buttload of carbs and do great.

Some of us are exercise maniacs. Some of us are working hard to get to 5000 steps a day.

Some of us won't touch a taboo empty calorie treat food...because it's a slippery slope that shouldn't be tempted. Some of us feel the need to master eating taboo foods in moderation to prove that we are in control and have "conquered" food.

Some of us eat 600 calories a day. Some of us eat 1200 a day.

Some of us are ok with moderately consuming alcohol. Some of us are not.

Some of us are horrified by artificial sweeteners. Some of us use them by the boatload.

And here's the really shocking part:

People in BOTH CAMPS on all of these points...have been doing really well.

How cool is that?

The more I listen to all the different stories, the more convinced I am that there are a LOT of ways up this mountain. (Also cool!)

Here's another interesting question...

What's success?

For some folks, success is having a low normal BMI, and being an athlete.

For some folks, success is fitting a certain size, looking a certain way, feeling attractive, getting perfect plastics and looking like a model at the end.

For some folks, success is hitting some other goal. Being able to fit in an airplane seat, Being able to play with kids and be active.

For some folks, success is getting diabetes and blood pressure and other health concerns under control.

For some folks, success is weighing under 200 pounds and not sweating it much beyond that.

For some folks, success is being mobile, being independent, going back to work, and being able to take care of themselves.

There are a lot of different versions of what success looks like. And not everyone's gonna want the same thing.

What your group of doctors says....I guarantee you....will not be anything like what another group of doctors says.

There are no hard fast answers about what works and what doesn't. What we've got...are a lot of valuable personal experiences with a LOT of different programs.

All worth sharing.

But no one has THE answer for everyone:)

Sometimes I hear....but what about the newbies? Don't we owe it to them to set a good example?

No, we really don't. We owe them our honesty. And we owe them the credit they deserve...to do their homework, read a LOT of stuff, consider all the various opinions about everything.... and figure out what they believe and what works for them:)

Just my $.02

Opinions...as always....will vary:)

Very well said! Cheers to you!