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I did not have to lose weight prior to surgery. I have Cigna insurance. There is also no requirement for me to see any doctor post op. I see all my doctors on my own accord but it’s not mandatory. Guessing insurances differ.

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I am self-pay but still will go through steps that insurance payees go through. I'm 59 and hoping for an October date. I have to lose 20 pounds before he will consider surgery. They are testing patients to see if they will be able to comply with the diet regimens given post and pre op surgery. THEN I get the lucky clear liquid 2 week diet. An ekg will be done at hospital at pre-op. Dietician did give me a phamplet and went over foods and activities to do post and ore surgery. But I am old and didn't really soak it all in. I've read online some but when I found this group I hit the jackpot. I have learned SO much from all of you and am so grateful!

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I had surgery in Mexico this week but I am also a registered nurse so I made sure that I knew what I was doing and I even brought my own nutrition with me that I got off of BariatricPal for instants the clear Liquid Protein which has been really great to use here and it traveled well. I did not have to go to the six-month waiting. However I did have to pay for all out-of-pocket. I do also have a surgeon back home and a dietitian who were willing to take me as a patient before a reschedule this appointment in Mexico. I would have paid to have the surgery in the US however oddly enough the hospital said they wouldn’t take my credit card so I just went back to the same surgeon who did my lap band 13 years ago(I just had it removed last year because the port was poking me) I will say that there’s no way you’re going to get as much follow up just by communicating via email after surgery and another country. I think it is wise to plan ahead so that you have good follow up. I will leave Mexico on Saturday and I already have blood work set up for Monday and then a follow-up with the surgeon the next week and the nutritionist. But I agree this is a recipe for disaster if people don’t put in the effort to educate themselves but even down here I waited for permission to start my clear liquid Protein and I have a nutritionist who has already explained the plan to me, if not verbally than in writing.

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probably a good 5hing you are an R.N. and understand the ramifications of it all.

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i know of someone, an older lady, who had gastric bypass surgery at a hospital in Georgia.
the next day, the daughter brings a box of Cinnabons to her in the hospital room. they proceed to start eating them. she tears open her new stomach and has to go into emergency surgery to save her life, cleaning cinnabons out of her abdomen.
moral of the story? there seems to be no limit to the stupidity of most people in this country. it is infinite and almost beyond the imagination. while some bariatric offices are better than others at preparation and patient education, none of that really matters when dealing with the average American.
look at our president.
Rofllmaolollol

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Because I was a Band to Sleeve revision, I had no Nutritional education requirements. I did have 3 phone calls over 90 days but there were no tests, just conversations about whether I’d read a pamphlet, ordered my vitamins...just checking the boxes...
Thankfully, as a Diabetic (controlled without medication for 3 years now) I’ve been through a butt ton of nutrition classes, so I wasn’t exactly left flailing like some.

Absolutely no nutritional support after either.
My psychologist happens to be, entirely coincidently, a Batiatric Specialist, so I just text her when I have pressing questions to which I can find no answers after extensive research.   

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i know of someone, an older lady, who had gastric bypass surgery at a hospital in Georgia.
the next day, the daughter brings a box of Cinnabons to her in the hospital room. they proceed to start eating them. she tears open her new stomach and has to go into emergency surgery to save her life, cleaning cinnabons out of her abdomen.
moral of the story? there seems to be no limit to the stupidity of most people in this country. it is infinite and almost beyond the imagination. while some bariatric offices are better than others at preparation and patient education, none of that really matters when dealing with the average American.
look at our president.
I'm sorry, but I feel that bringing up your obvious dislike for the president in this forum is just opportunistic. This , in the end is about personal responsibility. Refraining from the behavior that for them there in the first place. TBH, right after surgery, I could have eaten the steering wheel off my car. I refrained. I have stuck to the diet, cheated a couple of times, buy have lost almost 40 lbs in 5 weeks. For those who can't make the changes, save your money and stay home.

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I had to see a nut Dr 6 months in a row, that was just one prerequisite. I also received a binder with a lot of info on everything and I also purchased the BIG BOOK ON GASTRIC SLEEVE thru bp, I'm revising to the bypass soon due to acid reflux and hiatal hernia issue and I can't wait. I will definitely be buying the BIG BOOK ON THE BYPASS also. They have a ton of information in these books and I recommend anyone considering these procedures to also purchase them.

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Our President is doing an awesome job of keeping his promises which is why he got elected! That has nothing to do with bariatric surgery but anyone knows the post op diet and if that person ate cinnabons right out of surgery shame on them and the people that brought them. This procedure doesn't work if you can't even close your pie hole out of surgery. I really feel sorry for this person because they lack total intelligence or total will power and they will surely fail because this is a life changing surgery. But, you have to be willing to do without some of your favorite things and make healthier things your new favorites. Don't go through all of this in vain and not learn anything! This is your chance to get it right! Don't squander your second chance!

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I'm sorry, but I feel that bringing up your obvious dislike for the president in this forum is just opportunistic. This , in the end is about personal responsibility. Refraining from the behavior that for them there in the first place. TBH, right after surgery, I could have eaten the steering wheel off my car. I refrained. I have stuck to the diet, cheated a couple of times, buy have lost almost 40 lbs in 5 weeks. For those who can't make the changes, save your money and stay home.

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I agree 110% don't waste everyone's time to get you healthy and then eat crap you're not supposed to.

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I agree 110% don't waste everyone's time to get you healthy and then eat crap you're not supposed to.

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Oh yeah, bringing up the President? REALLY! How does that even matter, he didn't make you fat.

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I promise I'm not judging anyone. I promise, this isn't in response to any particular thread already existing on this forum.
I'm genuinely confused. I "think" in the US that most of us who are in programs paid by insurance, must go through a supervised weight loss period prior to insurance approval. It ranges from 3-6 months or even longer--maybe even a year or more? During that time, in my plan at least, we painstakingly go over my doc's pre-op and post-op diet regimen along with the Vitamin and Water schedules so that there isn't any doubt about what I'm supposed to be doing at any point in time after surgery.
So how is it that I read all over the internet (not just here on BP) about patients asking what they're supposed to eat immediately post-op, or x days post-op, or x weeks?
I swear how I don't understand this scenario? Is it different if you're self-pay maybe? I'm sure it's quite diff if you have surgery out of the country through Medical Tourism, perhaps? Do surgeons really put their patients through this life-changing, anatomy-altering surgery without fully explaining what to do once the surgery's over? It just seems so scary larry sketchy...as in a recipe for disaster!?
So confused and concerned about these peeps! :mellow::blink::wacko::unsure::huh: (don't mind me...I'm easily amused by the googly eyes on these guys!)
kthanxbye.
Its not a matter of the surgeon not telling you what to do after surgery just because he says for example you can start eating ground beef now doesn't mean its going to approve with your stomach everybody is different what you used to be fine with eating is not the same anymore. I don't think you should belittle anybody's thoughts on what they talk about should they eat or not because this surgery is a learning process you learn what your body can intake all over again like a baby its a trial and error process. It has nothing to do with anybody's insurance carrier. So before you somewhat are judging peoples thoughts maybe you need to research more of what this life changing experience is about. Not judging though.[emoji19]

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Its not a matter of the surgeon not telling you what to do after surgery just because he says for example you can start eating ground beef now doesn't mean its going to approve with your stomach everybody is different what you used to be fine with eating is not the same anymore. I don't think you should belittle anybody's thoughts on what they talk about should they eat or not because this surgery is a learning process you learn what your body can intake all over again like a baby its a trial and error process. It has nothing to do with anybody's insurance carrier. So before you somewhat are judging peoples thoughts maybe you need to research more of what this life changing experience is about. Not judging though.[emoji19]

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I don't think asking questions is shaming anyone. There are no stupid questions, only dumb answers like yours.

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7 hours ago, joannniemiec said:

I'm sorry, but I feel that bringing up your obvious dislike for the president in this forum is just opportunistic.

boy nothing gets by you, does it? you graduated at the top of your class i presume...

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