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I originally had gastric sleeve 5/20/14, HW 250. I had to do a conversion to RNY 11/1/17. My last weigh in was 196lbs. At one month post op I was down to 176lbs, mostly due to the liquid diet. I haven't budged from that number in two weeks and it was there for a week before the weigh in. I'm just wondering if it's a stall or if it's just smaller amounts coming off slower because it's my second go round? Any ideas?

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Well...so I'm told by my surgeon. She calls it the "one golden shot" surgery.

But, you also know about the dreaded 3 week stall, right? It can hit anywhere from 2-8 weeks out so I hear? Hang loose, and work your plan like your working your favorite corner on a Saturday night on the strip! :D

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Revisional surgery patients often lose a bit more slowly than 'virgin' bariatric surgery patients.

This is because the revisional surgery patient's body has already experienced the metabolic shock of a previous bariatric surgical procedure in the past.

There's a saying: "It's never as good as the first time."

However, some peoples' mileage may vary...a few people have more success with weight loss and maintenance after the revisional procedure.

Good luck to you. :)

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59 minutes ago, Introversion said:

Revisional surgery patients often lose a bit more slowly than 'virgin' bariatric surgery patients.

This is because the revisional surgery patient's body has already experienced the metabolic shock of a previous bariatric surgical procedure in the past.

There's a saying: "It's never as good as the first time."

However, some peoples' mileage may vary...a few people have more success with weight loss and maintenance after the revisional procedure.

Good luck to you. :)

I haven't heard that, are you sure that's a real thing? (the metabolic shock thing, it doesn't sound very scientific)

I know that revisionsal surgeries are more likely to be/have complications and the long term success rate of them is less (ie whatever underlying problems that caused the original ot fail could cause this to fail)

But I would imagine that the weight should come off roughly the same. However you have to account for age and weight. If your original surgery was at 350 pounds at age 25 of course weight would come off much quicker than with a revisionsal surgery at 250 pounds at age 40

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23 hours ago, Mhy12784 said:

I haven't heard that, are you sure that's a real thing? (the metabolic shock thing, it doesn't sound very scientific)

Here's a quote from the Texas Bariatric Specialists. I don't pull random, unfounded information out of my ass. Generally, I back up my information with reputable sources.

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Many patients don't realize that after a revision, weight loss is generally slower, and the percentage of excess weight lost sustained is slightly lower than what is experienced after a primary weight loss surgery procedure.

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My surgeon actually said the same thing in our first seminar. She calls it the 1 Golden Shot Surgery. She's a Baylor top doc in Texas.

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2 minutes ago, FluffyChix said:

My surgeon actually said the same thing in our first seminar. She calls it the 1 Golden Shot Surgery. She's a Baylor top doc in Texas.

Also, the following link takes you to a YouTube vlog made by Dr. Matthew Weiner, a bariatric surgeon in Michigan, who mentions the '1 golden shot' nature of revisional surgery.

http://drmatthewweiner.com/bariatric-surgery-revisions-will-they-help-or-not/

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2 minutes ago, Introversion said:

Also, the following link takes you to a YouTube vlog made by Dr. Matthew Weiner, a bariatric surgeon in Michigan, who mentions the '1 golden shot' nature of revisional surgery.

http://drmatthewweiner.com/bariatric-surgery-revisions-will-they-help-or-not/

Oh wow! LOL. Maybe they either teach that or she heard it from him? :D Good times!

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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