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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3376765/Why-t-blame-slow-metabolism-piling-pounds-s-excuse-use-unique-experiment-proves-s-poppycock.html#ixzz4hhw13mpn

It is a pretty long read but they take 2 people, put them in a pod and monitor them for 24 hours. They feed them, make them exercise and monitor their sleep.

2 people obviously doesn't make for a study but the results are interesting to me.

The guy weighs 182 at 5'11 and has 142 pounds of lean mass.

They do not give a weight for the female reporter but her lean mass is 93 pounds.

His BMR 1656 and hers is 1224. Over the course of 24 hours he burns 2098 calories and she burns 1638. (This is why even if you eat to the level of your BMR you are still creating a calorie deficit, because your burn calories over that amount just living and being active in a day.)

He burns 1.15 calories a minute and she burns .85. However they are each burning the same amount of calories per kilo of lean mass .02.

The Dr's say that metabolism between age 20 to 50 is pretty constant and doesn't really drop off a lot until 80.

Exercising increased their calorie burn 2.5 times normal for up to 2 hours after exercising.

Just for a frame of reference, my BMR is 1990 and my lean mass is 123 pounds.

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I know this is old, but it is useful information. I have a belief system (lifetime of obesity and maintaining as a 6 year post sleever) that I need so little to eat.

I am doing a 6 week transformation through a local gym - and they want me to eat more than I think I should. However, when you actually stick to it - a person really isn't hungry, weight loss is slow but steady and it supports working out and building muscle and fitness since the Protein is very focused on lean Proteins, green veggies and limited but healthy carb and fat choices.

I know there are exceptions, but once you are maintaining, I don't think most people need to live on only 1000- 1200 calories a day or something. I think we try to stick to that kind of restrictive diet but then have days where more is consumed, via either drink or food.

I doubt it makes that much difference, but other than consuming workout supplements, I avoid eating 2 hours after an intense workout with the thought it might make a slight difference. During that 2 hour window, presumably the body is driven to convert fat to energy (And I currently have some extra fat).

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

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        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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