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Had Sleeve 3 yrs ago and now being offered DS - What to do?



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Hey all,

Thank you so much for all the feedback. I like your post especially LittleBill. The answer is, no, I would not be happy. I actually made the decision to move ahead and have surgery scheduled for later this month. Will be sure to update you all after. Thanks again,

JD

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I had the sleeve in 2012. Good success, lost weight etc. Have maintained the loss for the most part. Then my gallbladder began giving me issues and my surgeon expanded his practice to a new doc that did the SIPS/DS. I figured since they were in there, why not. I could go for some more weight loss. I'm still only 3 weeks post op, but down 20lbs. Still having cramping, stinky, poo but I'm told this shall pass.

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Thanks BigRed! I am having the surgery on the 27th I'll be finding out next week in preadmission anyway, but I am curious, what was your post op diet after the switch given you already had the sleeve?

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3 day pre-op diet for liver shrinkage.

Post op: 1 week clear liquid, followed by 3 weeks pureed. I start my soft diet tomorrow and that's 7 weeks.

Glad to hear you're moving forward, sometimes just making the decision takes a load off.

Thanks BigRed! I am having the surgery on the 27th I'll be finding out next week in preadmission anyway, but I am curious, what was your post op diet after the switch given you already had the sleeve?

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My surgeon has the same pre- & post-op instructions for all surgeries whether is a sleeve, gastric bypass, traditional DS or single-anastomosis DS.

pre-op: 2 weeks Clear liquids with 3-4 30-gram Protein shakes. shakes must be made with powdered Protein, no pre-made shakes ever.

post-op: week 1, Clear Liquids only

weeks 2 - 4 clear liquids plus Protein Shakes (sleeve 3 shakes/day, DS & bypass 5 shakes/day)

weeks 5 & 6 puree

weeks 7 & 8 soft foods

week 9 start introduction of regular foods

I think I've seen only one other person post that a surgeon with a similar severely restrictive program.

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Because STATICALLY a person my weight and age would lose 80 pounds over an 18 month period my Dr really encouraged me to have a VSG or DS because due to years of (mostly "successful" yoyo dieting my body had learned to hold on too every ounce of fat.

In the end, I decided I would NOT be a statistic and had the gastric sleeve, lots of reasons but mainly because it wouldn't alter my anatomy as extremely.

The other reason was that despite what you might read on the internet, the sleeve doesn't stretch. As you have already learned you can eat around it and if you do you will gain weight.

You are extremely overweight, I can see why a Dr would encourage another surgery because you really need to loose weight now. But what happens in 6 months? In a year? People regain their weight after DS surgery too. On the other hand you already have a functioning weight loss tool that you can start using immediately if you are motivated to lose weight and save your life.

If it were me I would go back to square one with the sleeve you already have instead of having another major surgery. And, at the same time, get some treatment for your underlying eating disorder.

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The sleeve can stretch. Mine did although it still only held about 4 ounces. I had a "pouch test" x-ray where I ate a measured amount of food with radio-opaque material added.

Even though the vast majority of the stretchable portion of your stomach is removed in a sleeve gastrectomy, there still is some left.

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I had the sleeve in 2015 only lost about 60 pounds. My surgeon wanted me to have the DS originally but I didn't want to. I had the revised DS that allows less malabsorption in March 2017. I am now down a total of 120 pounds. I loose about 15-20 pounds and then I stall for at least a month or more and them I start losing again. I have no regrets. i have gone from a size 4x to 1X so far. Be patient with your weight loss it will happen.

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On 12/27/2016 at 4:33 PM, Kaylamh said:

In my opinion, the DS is the best surgery out there. I had mine a few weeks ago, and I already couldn't be happier. I feel great, I'm lighter on my feet, and I've already lost 25 pounds. It could really be a game changer if the sleeve isn't working for you. The sleeve typically has a lower success rate and a really high weight regain rate. The switch does not.

I had my DS this past June and love it! No regrets. I would do it again in a heartbeat. If you look at the stats, very few have regain with the DS. In fact, I have't read any posts on this site where a DS patient complains about regain. Not one.

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I too have hit a plateau. I am considering all of my options - and some version of DS is very high on the list. The dietary changes from the VSG have been very positive, to be sure, but there is still about 75 pounds of work to be done.

The VSG removed some foods from my diet because I no longer want or desire them, would DS surgery expand that list? Aside from the changes to the Vitamin regimen, what else could I expect? Does the absorption change affect medications that I might need in future years (my 70's and afterwards)?

Thanks for your help

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23 hours ago, BigDog Bryan said:

I too have hit a plateau. I am considering all of my options - and some version of DS is very high on the list. The dietary changes from the VSG have been very positive, to be sure, but there is still about 75 pounds of work to be done.

The VSG removed some foods from my diet because I no longer want or desire them, would DS surgery expand that list? Aside from the changes to the Vitamin regimen, what else could I expect? Does the absorption change affect medications that I might need in future years (my 70's and afterwards)?

Thanks for your help

Yes. The full DS can affect medications. Everyone is different with it, but many of us have been affected.

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

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        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

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