So it's very obvious the new newbies want nothing to do with hearing what successful WLS patients have to say. The recent debate over the the eating bacon 1 week postop makes it perfectly clear that what they want is for someone to tell them it's OK to be stupid. They are not interested in listening to their surgeons or nuts or veterans. Self sabotage is the new fad and compliance is apparently out of style. I made the mistake of responding to the post when, as a veteran, I should have known better. Turns out I'm just a big meanie (no surprise there!) At this point it's 95% newbies posting on that thread who don't have a clue what the long term repercussions of eating off plan so soon will lead to. The blind leading the blind.

Oh well. It will be interesting to see the stats of successful EWL go down over the next few years as more and more unprepared, uncommitted people continue to have WLS. In the meantime, I'm outa here. The newbies won. As hard as it is to tear my eyes away from the car wreck, I just can't take anymore people that do stupid shit and then whine about getting their feelings hurt. Someone PM me when the grown ups start joining again.

@@Sharon1964 - I got snarky responses for using a Southern expression "bless their hearts" and I can't block her posts, I have tried.

Omgsh bacon?

Don't go !! Please ? I have followed you and other vets and have learned so much since my surgery... I look to you all for direction. ????

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I know it's hard giving our advice to newbies but we try

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Wow, another thread missed....but then it is threads like those I avoid...being a Vet, I avoid certain threads, just by their titles...over the years it's been the same old same old...

I don't believe it's my place to give advice to anyone....it's a free world, do what you want to do and I will do the same.

All I can ever do is share my experiences, what I do or have done, and still be 110% successful.

But if it is good for anyone else is any body's guess.
Do I expect people to do what I tell them to do? Of course not! And I have done a lot of things with this WLS that are probably (definitely) against the mainstream way of thinking. (for the newbies I won't mention them)

As far as bacon....I gave up all meat 4 months from surgery, as a direct result of surgery. I have never felt better for doing so, and have won the praises from all my Dr.'s....
Should I advise others here to do the same? Is it the only path to success? NO! Of course not. I can only share what I have done.

On the flipside, I had black coffee 12 hrs after surgery...should I tell people it's ok to do so?? Again, of course not!

Alchohol, popcorn, bacon, straws, carbonated drinks, cakes, Cookies, midnight Snacks, etc, etc...the list goes on and on...it was here 6 years ago, and it will be here 6 years from now....

Do my feelings get hurt? No...Do I get tired and loathe such posts...Yes.

BTW, there was a forum just for "Vet's"...didn't work out well IMO, even Vet's can't agree on everything...it's a free world.

You know what they say about opinions...eveybody's got one.

I've said it before...people here come and go all the time, everyday.....people who were here when I joined, are all long gone...

I stick around for the entertainment mostly.

Don't go... Please. I'm going to need people

That have been there and done that. I haven't even got to my first appointment yet! I'm enjoying all the posts from those of you that have vital information. After all, knowing is half the battle!

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@@Kindle I'm a grown up! Please guide me!

Please, where is this bacon thread? I thought the chicken, potatoes, and gravy 9 days post-op was shocking, but bacon....wow.

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Yes, let's have a party with bacon, Cheeseits, loads of alcohol, pizzas, steaks, and throw all post op instructions to the wind!

After all, the Baby Stomach can go straight into eating steaks and hard to digest food, right ???

Wash it down with few wines or beers or tequilas, babies drink this too, right ???

The hell with baby type food .....

Don't let a few ruin it for you! I cannot understand. anything that would help me succeed is a gracious gift. Thank you!

So it's very obvious the new newbies want nothing to do with hearing what successful WLS patients have to say. The recent debate over the the eating bacon 1 week postop makes it perfectly clear that what they want is for someone to tell them it's OK to be stupid. They are not interested in listening to their surgeons or nuts or veterans. Self sabotage is the new fad and compliance is apparently out of style. I made the mistake of responding to the post when, as a veteran, I should have known better. Turns out I'm just a big meanie (no surprise there!) At this point it's 95% newbies posting on that thread who don't have a clue what the long term repercussions of eating off plan so soon will lead to. The blind leading the blind.

Oh well. It will be interesting to see the stats of successful EWL go down over the next few years as more and more unprepared, uncommitted people continue to have WLS. In the meantime, I'm outa here. The newbies won. As hard as it is to tear my eyes away from the car wreck, I just can't take anymore people that do stupid **** and then whine about getting their feelings hurt. Someone PM me when the grown ups start joining again.

I'm sad to hear this Kindle ... I am a newbie and totally am absorbing what all you vets have to say. Hope you come back soon.

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Life is too damn short to answer truly ignorant and dangerous posts. Stick to the real people in need.

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Can we have a bacon taco? Js

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The problem is that you see people seeking validation instead of advice. They need some tough love doled out!

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It is a shame that a few nasty people can drive away from this website at least two veterans who posted in this topic.

Hopefully they will return. The other website they post in is no different.