So it's very obvious the new newbies want nothing to do with hearing what successful WLS patients have to say. The recent debate over the the eating bacon 1 week postop makes it perfectly clear that what they want is for someone to tell them it's OK to be stupid. They are not interested in listening to their surgeons or nuts or veterans. Self sabotage is the new fad and compliance is apparently out of style. I made the mistake of responding to the post when, as a veteran, I should have known better. Turns out I'm just a big meanie (no surprise there!) At this point it's 95% newbies posting on that thread who don't have a clue what the long term repercussions of eating off plan so soon will lead to. The blind leading the blind.

Oh well. It will be interesting to see the stats of successful EWL go down over the next few years as more and more unprepared, uncommitted people continue to have WLS. In the meantime, I'm outa here. The newbies won. As hard as it is to tear my eyes away from the car wreck, I just can't take anymore people that do stupid shit and then whine about getting their feelings hurt. Someone PM me when the grown ups start joining again.

I think Bacongate 2016 should be a distant memory and a reminder that our tools are not a cure. It was a reminder to me to never let my guard down and be on the constant lookout for food addiction to rear its ugly head. I have learned from bacon girl who by the way has finally admitted that eating bacon a week out was a mistake. However, still being very defensive. I think she scared me into never letting my guard down. For that I'm grateful, at least.

Why we can't just leave the bacon alone she said that the doctor got on to her. You learn from your mistakes. I think she got it.... she was really asking for help. So, please leave it alone. If you look in the mirror you are being a bully. We are here for help. I'm happy she told us because someone else has made a mistake but to scared to say something. Her doctor wouldn't have known if she did not tell him.

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you know, it's really fine to say you wish people would drop it - but I really don't think being horrified by someone's poor choice constitutes being a bully.

you know, it's really fine to say you wish people would drop it - but I really don't think being horrified by someone's poor choice constitutes being a bully.

When you keep going and going about it.

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Edited July 8, 201610 yr by Lifestylechange45

If you post something here asking for advice, it becomes a part of the ongoing discussion. I think the bacon refuses to die because people were just shocked, quite frankly. It will run it's course eventually. That's all I have to say about that.

Thank you Kindle for all your years of support.

Well this is sad. I'm a newbie, just started the process and to read this makes me feel like there is no support here. I'm glad there are vets here. I read a lot of old post and vet post to get good info. U shouldn't just punish all for a few.

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I wasn't part of the bacon thing. Just sayin!

I wasn't part of the bacon thing. Just sayin!

The day is young.......you can still jump in !!!!

Well this is sad. I'm a newbie, just started the process and to read this makes me feel like there is no support here. I'm glad there are vets here. I read a lot of old post and vet post to get good info. U shouldn't just punish all for a few.

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Eh, don't let a website dust up blow you away. There will be bigger fish to fry down the road. (Well "fry" might not be the right word, I actually want it blackned or baked now)

I wasn't part of the bacon thing. Just sayin!

The day is young.......you can still jump in !!!!

Nope. I have been on best behavior.

I wasn't part of the bacon thing. Just sayin!

The day is young.......you can still jump in !!!!

Nope. I have been on best behavior.

I've noticed.

Well done.

I'm new here. I'm 45yrs old. I need help. That is why I joined this group. That is why I asked help yesterday and I got it. There is no way I would eat bacon after week after having surgery. I want my health to get better not worse but stupid stuff just because of my cravings that I can surely wait a few weeks for.

@@Kindle I was you would reconsider I am a newbie and I need people like you for the support.

God Bless

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Thank you Kindle for all your years of support.

What a sweet post.

Why we can't just leave the bacon alone she said that the doctor got on to her. You learn from your mistakes. I think she got it.... she was really asking for help. So, please leave it alone. If you look in the mirror you are being a bully. We are here for help. I'm happy she told us because someone else has made a mistake but to scared to say something. Her doctor wouldn't have known if she did not tell him.

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I agree

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