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There's a lot of research saying a better measure of weight for health predictors is this:

http://www.shapefit.com/calculators/waist-to-height-ratio-calculator.html

Because it is focused more on Viceral fat which is the least healthy (fat around our organs) and less skewed by a very high or low body fat percentage, which as has been said the BMI is (don't even get me started on that--in CA our HS students must pass a physical fitness test and how fast they are required to run a mile is based on BMI, the higher it is the faster they have to run--OK for those with a high BMI due to muscle, nigh impossible for the overweight/obese!)

I often say I was born in the wrong time--when I was fat it was fat shaming, now that I wear a 2/4 it's skinny shaming society is focused on. Megan Trainor's "All About that Base" celebrates her curves while slamming the "skinny b*****s." Layne Bryant's "No Angels" campaign slamms the Victoria Secret models. I know the original poster meant no offense, but you can get a little sensitive when society is full of those messages.

Like VSGAnn above I lost way past where I thought I would! I aimed for 160-65ish because that's the most recent place I felt good. Honestly my body had other ideas and it was truly hard to stop until I got to 135 and my body found a balance there. It's honestly hard for me to gain or lose away from that new set point now so sometimes we aren't in control. And like VSGAnn I am amazed, I feel so much better at 135 than I did at 165. I feel stronger more agile and flexible and just comfortable in my body in a way I never did before. Ever. My exercise plan is a big part of that (I run 20-30 miles a week and do yoga 3-4x a week which has given me an 18% body fat).

So to the OP, you may be surprised. You may not know where "there" is till you get "there" and you may not be a twig. I sure as heck am not a twig at 135 and a size 2/4. I have curves (32DDD) and muscles and a butt. I am stronger than ever before.

But yeah there can be that cross addiction to losing weight. I had a period of time where I did wanna see "how low can I go?" Thought it would be interesting to see what being in the 120's was like.

It's sure an interesting process and we all go through different journeys. Let's remember that and be supportive of people who wind up a size 2 and those who wind up a size 12 as long as they are happy and healthy.

Excellent, excellent post!!!

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Good grief. Seems like getting offended by one thing or another is a trend these days. If you called me a twig, I'd take it as a compliment. Loosen up.

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I outweigh a taller friend but she wears at least 2 pant sized bigger and about the same size top. She has fine bones and small frame; I have a more athletic build. Everyone is happier when we focus on own goals rather than comparing to others.

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I read somewhere that BMI correlation to healthy body fat percentage is almost always correct for overweight and obese categories. So something like 95% of people who are overweight or obese by BMI measure are also overfat by recommended body fat levels. But 30% of people who are normal weight by BMI measure are overfat by recommended body fat levels (i.e "skinny-fat"). So the real flaw in BMI is that it doesn't work super well as a health indicator for people in normal BMI range. So once you get close to normal range BMI (if not sooner), I would start also measuring your body fat percentage to see if you are in healthy range for that measurement.

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I read somewhere that BMI correlation to healthy body fat percentage is almost always correct for overweight and obese categories. So something like 95% of people who are overweight or obese by BMI measure are also overfat by recommended body fat levels. But 30% of people who are normal weight by BMI measure are overfat by recommended body fat levels (i.e "skinny-fat"). So the real flaw in BMI is that it doesn't work super well as a health indicator for people in normal BMI range. So once you get close to normal range BMI (if not sooner), I would start also measuring your body fat percentage to see if you are in healthy range for that measurement.

The other place BMI woefully fails is in the very muscular/low body fat/athletic. Especially men.

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The OP isn't talking about not wanting to be at the low end of the BMI table. She's saying she doesn't want to be within the BMI table at all. She wants to weigh above the recommended weight for her height, to remain overweight by medical standards. Because she feels that even at the high end of the BMI table, people look like "twigs". She is saying she believes the BMI table to be wrong and to encourage extreme weightloss and a body type that is too skinny.

I disagree with that, I believe the BMI table to be correct because it's founded in medical science and rooted in health.

If the Op wants to remain medically overweight, even after this surgery- that's her decision. But I do not agree that the rest of the posters on here are misguided to want to fall into a healthy weight range based on the BMI table.

The BMI table is an excellent guideline for our health and since our goal is health, beyond aesthetics, we should desire to fall within the range recommended to us.

BELLA******** You are so wrong. I suggest you go back and read MY original post. I also think you need to loosen your ponytail or something.

If you don't like my post or the fact the you are totally WRONG about the BMI index then delete or unfollow the post. Don't continue to insult me by telling others or posting what I MEANT, try asking.

It's time to just stop because you are wrong, wrongggggg,

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The OP isn't talking about not wanting to be at the low end of the BMI table. She's saying she doesn't want to be within the BMI table at all. She wants to weigh above the recommended weight for her height, to remain overweight by medical standards. Because she feels that even at the high end of the BMI table, people look like "twigs". She is saying she believes the BMI table to be wrong and to encourage extreme weightloss and a body type that is too skinny.

I disagree with that, I believe the BMI table to be correct because it's founded in medical science and rooted in health.

If the Op wants to remain medically overweight, even after this surgery- that's her decision. But I do not agree that the rest of the posters on here are misguided to want to fall into a healthy weight range based on the BMI table.

The BMI table is an excellent guideline for our health and since our goal is health, beyond aesthetics, we should desire to fall within the range recommended to us.

BELLA******** You are so wrong. I suggest you go back and read MY original post. I also think you need to loosen your ponytail or something.

If you don't like my post or the fact the you are totally WRONG about the BMI index then delete or unfollow the post. Don't continue to insult me by telling others or posting what I MEANT, try asking.

It's time to just stop because you are wrong, wrongggggg,

Sometimes when you post on here, people are going to disagree with you. It's an open forum as I understand. I am sorry if your upset about it! But I do disagree with you. ????

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Bella,

If you care to occupy your Sunday afternoon, here is some reading material for you:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265215.php

http://www.webmd.com/diet/bmi-drawbacks-and-other-measurements

http://www.sott.net/article/246849-How-Flawed-And-Outdated-Is-The-Body-Mass-Index-BMI-Measurement

Just a few articles that support what I am saying. Enjoy.

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