Anyone else aggravated?

[00612 12]

Furthermore, I think their doctors should lose their licenses for performing surgery on uninformed patients.

I agree. It's pretty disgraceful that any surgeon would perform surgery on a patient without ensuring they are FULLY informed about all of the steps they will have to take post-op to ensure the best possibly recovery and outcome. It reflects badly on the surgeons if their patients fail, so you would think it would be in their best interests to do everything in their power to help them succeed!

I highly doubt that those patients didn't receive the proper information about the procedure from their physicians. People come here and ask those types of questions because they want to see if anyone else broke their diets, and what we're the consequences to their health; they knew better than to ask a physician about cheating. I wouldn't be so quick to feel as though a person should lose their license because a patient pretended that they weren't informed.

[Rogofulm 2,440]

@@etamluosym, I suspect you're right in many cases, but the number of BP posters that appear to not have ANY information or follow-up support is alarming. So I still maintain that any surgeon who runs a "chop shop" that doesn't provide pre-op and post-op education and support really needs to be investigated.

[ladivaluz806 87]

I am guilty of being one of the people who did not know that we basically cut out most carbs. I did receive instructions and a hand book and a app and tons of info about post op eating. However, no where did it say "mininal carbs" . I did post on here not long ago about how we basically must cut a big amount of carbs out of our eating. I get it and i follow just that. But again, in my Dr who is one of the best in this area he doesnt specify that. His rule is eat your Protein first then have your carb. Simple. I am sure the posts are not ment to offend, or chap, or piss people off. Again this is a forum and is made to be able to vent and ask questions. I dont get offended by this at all, after all anyone who eats the wrong foods will be offending themselves soon enough when the scale doesnt move, and that will totally be on them. Accountability doesnt come as easy for some as it does for others.

[Babbs 14,681]

Furthermore, I think their doctors should lose their licenses for performing surgery on uninformed patients.

I agree. It's pretty disgraceful that any surgeon would perform surgery on a patient without ensuring they are FULLY informed about all of the steps they will have to take post-op to ensure the best possibly recovery and outcome. It reflects badly on the surgeons if their patients fail, so you would think it would be in their best interests to do everything in their power to help them succeed!

I highly doubt that those patients didn't receive the proper information about the procedure from their physicians. People come here and ask those types of questions because they want to see if anyone else broke their diets, and what we're the consequences to their health; they knew better than to ask a physician about cheating. I wouldn't be so quick to feel as though a person should lose their license because a patient pretended that they weren't informed.

I concur! I witnessed it first hand.

I was sitting and waiting for my last appointment before surgery, and another woman had come in for her pre op appointment also. The receptionist handed her the paper with the Vitamins the NUT had recommended we purchase before surgery, and she had NO IDEA what it was. I mean, really? I heard her say the name and ask what it was and knew right away what they were. And I know she'd met with the NUT. It is a requirement for that surgeon.

Some people either don't pay attention very well or just don't care. Oh well. C'est la vie.

[KatrinaGrace 56]

It's probably best to understand that everyone's body works a bit differently. My body loses weight when my carb intake is higher. If I don't get carbs in, you can bet that scale isn't going to move. Eat some baked cheetos and a roll of fruit flavored Mentos and another pound is off the scale the next morning for me. It's weird. I never have had to weigh or measure my foods because I have never been able to get enough in anyway, but I never stalled and have only just recently slowed down in the weight loss. I reached my goal of 135 from 213 at 6 months and am at 129 at 7 months. If things start to change further out, I will then reevaluate how and what I eat. For now, why change what works for me?

[4MRB4PHOTO 3,900]

I like to use the "Willy Wonka" analogy of "I got a golden ticket" that some people believe they get once they have the surgery. That is, they can eat whatever they want in whatever quantities they can.

Don't get me wrong, sweets or a slice of pizza, etc. on occasion can be ok (it is up to the individual, this surgery is not a diet) but not all the time and not 3 high caloric, nutritionally unbalanced meals a day -although we do need to shift the nutritional pyramid around a little to get our Protein in.

I have read about people who totally disregard any medical advice and start to eat all foods a week or two after having WLS (even 1-2 days after)!

There are chemical/hormonal changes to the body after the procedure (such as lower Ghrelin production for the VSG), but he procedures are primarily restrictive, with some malabsorption depending upon the procedure.

It is meant as a tool and should be treated as such. Just as with a power tool, if you don't use it properly, maintain it and use it how it was designed for, you won't get the results you want.

A lifestyle change is required if this surgical tool is going to be successful long term.

Edited June 18, 2015 by 4MRB4PHOTO

[BestDayEver 418]

When I was in the waiting room for my pro-op appointment, two other patients were chatting with each other. The woman was saying that as she understood it you could eventually go back to eating your favorite foods and wondered how soon she could resume drinking soda. She had received the same pre-surgical info I had received but clearly she just didn't want to accept it. Most of us get it - the surgery is just a tool, a wonderful blessing of a tool! I work the program every day and see results I would not have seen without it. Bottom line, it's what you make of it and who am I to scorn others who see it differently than I do? I just appreciate this site for all the great information I have gleaned from it, and the inspiration it provides me every day!!

[CowgirlJane 14,261]

I had a similar experience.

I went to ONE support group from my surgeon. The faciliator had an emergency and didn't show up. So, people who had been attending regularly took over. They talked about eating "fair food" - deep fried junk, donuts etc etc etc.

I was surprised as a new post op as these ladies were still quite obese.

I found out they had each lost around 50# and were essentially stalled already.

It was probably the best support group meeting I could have attended as it was an eye opener. I never went back, but I never forgot it either. Another example of people who received the same guidance I did, but came to a different conclusion.

I was sitting and waiting for my last appointment before surgery, and another woman had come in for her pre op appointment also. The receptionist handed her the paper with the Vitamins the NUT had recommended we purchase before surgery, and she had NO IDEA what it was. I mean, really? I heard her say the name and ask what it was and knew right away what they were. And I know she'd met with the NUT. It is a requirement for that surgeon.

Some people either don't pay attention very well or just don't care. Oh well. C'est la vie.