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Of course you are! But know that there are many people who had to figure out another way, like changing insurance or self-pay, etc. The main thing is you have decided to do something about your health and your future. You deserve to get the assistance you need so don't give up!

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That is truly sad. I would be upset, too. Is a time frame that you have to meet? Are your eligible for other insurance plans like through a spouse's or parent's (not sure of your age) employment? Could you waive your health coverage and purchase your own? Or sign up for a healthcare exchange plan (Obamacare/Medicaid) for your state? Could take out a loan and be self-pay? You may have to start thinking out of the box...sorry.

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My husband's employer's plan specifically prohibits WLS.

We got a home loan.

It wound up costing around $20K for everything including follow up, so in the neighborhood of financing a new car. My insurance covered most of the pre-op testing/psych/etc. You can do it even cheaper if you go to Mexico.

Best wishes. I hope you can find a way to get the money you need!

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That is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW, What is a employee clause?

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An employer clause means that while the insurance company (Cigna, BCBS, Aetna) has WLS coverage available, the employer providing the coverage opted to exclude the coverage. Generally this is a cost savings to the employer, and therefore the employees.

Open enrollment for Obamacare is soon. Try to get a plan through them. That's what I ended up doing.

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An employer clause means that while the insurance company (Cigna, BCBS, Aetna) has WLS coverage available, the employer providing the coverage opted to exclude the coverage. Generally this is a cost savings to the employer, and therefore the employees.

Open enrollment for Obamacare is soon. Try to get a plan through them. That's what I ended up doing.

Depends on what state you live in....I am self employed and pay for an individual health insurance plan. It specifically excludes WLS. In fact, once Obamacare kicked in, it is impossible to purchase an individual plan in my state that includes WLS. My new "affordable" care plan costs more and covers less than the old plan. But that's a whole other rant......

So I researched the hell out of the procedure and surgeons...both local and in Mexico. I went with the most qualified ones I found and felt the safest with, Dr. Ariel Ortiz and Dr. Martinez at OCC in TJ. I used the money I had been saving for two years for a down payment on a new truck. VSG was the best money I ever spent and I happily drive my 15 year old truck everyday.

If you really want this surgery, you should keep your options open, and make it happen.

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So how will I know if this is the case with my husbands insurance? I called Blue Care Network and they told me what I had to do in order to be approved. Would they have told me if the employer excluded WLS during that call? Good GOD, a whole new rejection reason to worry about...I am going to give myself a stroke! UGH!

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So how will I know if this is the case with my husbands insurance? I called Blue Care Network and they told me what I had to do in order to be approved. Would they have told me if the employer excluded WLS during that call? Good GOD, a whole new rejection reason to worry about...I am going to give myself a stroke! UGH!

The insurance company sent me a copy of my policy when I enrolled and I just read through the whole thing. The weight loss exclusion (which included therapy, counseling, diet programs, surgery and any complication) was listed. Ask for a copy of your husbands policy and check for yourself. When I was forced to purchase an Obamacare plan, I requested the written policy from every company. None of them included WLS. Turns out whole states can opt out of the WLS inclusion and mine is one of them.

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Reading things like this really upsets me. There are reasons that people need this type of intervention, and in the long run the cost of health care for someone who is obese with co-morbidity issues some of us having more then one costs way more than surgical intervention for the reduction and prevention of those issues.

Peoples lives are at stake, and I don't think that everyone really understands the issues that can and do arise from obesity. That is why education and advocacy amount the WLS community is so important!

You would not deny a cancer patient chemo therapy or surgery to remove the cancer. You would not deny a cardiac patient a bypass so why deny an obese person who is trying to make a commitment to change their lives forever so that they hopefully never need those surgeries or interventions? I don't understand it....

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How scary is that, I'm with Jacqbult..I have BCBS "Blue Choice" of Maryland, when I called they said I was covered as long as I met the requirements which I do...but I didn't go through all these test and 6 months of pre op with NUT to get a denial.

Pretty much scheduled for the day before Thanksgiving, only test I need to do is within 30 days prior to surgery medical clearance (EKG and blood work) Meet with the Surgeon on Oct. 29th to get "A-OK" for surgery and NUT for pre-op diet instructions...other than that..the paperwork will then be submitted to Insurance and she said could take up to 15 days to get approval. I am guessing those 15 days will be the worst 15 days of my life since it will also be during my pre-op diet....Probably will have a stroke!!

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My BCBS (Federal Employee) approved my surgery in two days, but I had to call them to find out. My surgeon's office had a slow process for moving forward, plus their insurance coordinator was on vacation. I am glad I called. The peace of mind was reassuring. Stay pro-active.

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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