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I have only begun to scratch the surface of all this research but, you have inspired me to do something about my Calcium intake. i was really pretty good for a very long time but the last few months I just cannot handle the pills. They make me queasy and if I eat them anytime near a meal - well, i can write that meal off as it will just kill my appetite. I am going to return to buying the chews.

One reason I don't like the chews is they are like candy. I feel almost like Protein bars sorta trigger bad ways of eating too... that I don't want to eat Vitamins like candy.

I am far enough along now maybe it is worth trying it... and learning how to have things in the house that ***might*** trigger a candy response in me since overall I don't have a problem with overeating.

Thanks for all the effort you have put into sharing all this!

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I've got a bunch more resources I'll put up soon. I did a lot of looking into it when I saw people, like my former surgeon, recommend Flintstones and then get Vitamin K so low it doesn't register on the blood work exam. Meaning you look at Flintstones and it doesn't have it ... so why is a bariatric surgeon recommending something like that?

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I have a Premier Protein daily and it claims to have 50 percent of Calcium RDA. Add it to some calcium pills eating yogurts etc and could get to recommended level.

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This is turning into a very well researched, but scary thread.

AMEN

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I've got a bunch more resources I'll put up soon. I did a lot of looking into it when I saw people, like my former surgeon, recommend Flintstones and then get Vitamin K so low it doesn't register on the blood work exam. Meaning you look at Flintstones and it doesn't have it ... so why is a bariatric surgeon recommending something like that?

EXACTLY what my surgeon recommended!

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Flinstones don't have any Vitamin K.

http://labeling.bayercare.com/omr/online/flintstones-complete.pdf

One pill is deficient of 100% of the following: Vitamin A, Niacin, Biotin, Calcium, Zinc. Also note that the calcium in here is calcium CARBONATE not CITRATE. One other big note: ferrous Fumarate is NON heme Iron, which is like a plant based type of Iron that doesn't absorb as well as heme or animal based iron. Actually, heme is fish, meat, & poultry which contains both.

Btw, I used to use Flintstones. I went zinc deficient. I have calcium/Vitamin D issues.

Granulated Calcium Carbonate (Calcium Carbonate, Dextrose Monohydrate, Sugar, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Maltodextrin), Sorbitol, Sodium Ascorbate, Ferrous Fumarate,

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I can't stomach the Calcium pills or the chews but I do fine with the liquid calcium. Wellesse or something like that - can get on Amazon and I also found it at Walgreens once. No nausea, no metallic taste. I'm suppose to do 5ml three times a day but usually only get it down twice. I've added extra D because I was on the low end of normal at 4 weeks post.

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My surgeon recommended the children's chewables, too. I think because it was easy on the stomach. Then, after a few weeks, he switches you to a prenatal. I couldn't swallow those, so I started using a Vitafusion Gummy, or lately I've been taking the hair, skin, and nails supplement. I think I was actually overdosing for a while by taking both, not realizing that they both contained 100% of many things. You really do have to read and research.

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Overdosing can have its own issues. Look up hypervitaminosis. This is one of the reasons why I had such a problem with my surgeon who would only do the standard routine and not test for things outside of that.

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@@swimbikerun I am well aware of hypervitaminosis. That's why I was shocked at myself that I was doing that! I know better. I wasn't doing it long - but one day when I was taking all those pills it hit me that I better double check what I was doing.

You are quite the research ninja, BTW! :)

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That you realized what you were doing is great - and for reading and researching. :) Very smart! There are quite a few who think that more of a Vitamin is better for you.

:)

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My surgeon recommended the children's chewables, too. I think because it was easy on the stomach. Then, after a few weeks, he switches you to a prenatal. I couldn't swallow those, so I started using a Vitafusion Gummy, or lately I've been taking the hair, skin, and nails supplement. I think I was actually overdosing for a while by taking both, not realizing that they both contained 100% of many things. You really do have to read and research.

I use the vita fusion tummies also. I liked the prenatal though, 'cause they are sour tummies. :)

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Ok, my head is spinning, but the main thing I have gotten out of this is I am back on track with Calcium. I am only taking 500 mg of calcium citrate but i am doing some of the chews AND my premier Protein has 50% of the RDA of Calcium - I assume also calcium carbonate but I figure that combo is better then nothing.

I am going to order some bariatric Vitamins because I have been doing the kiddo gummys, vit B complex sublingual drops and calcium/Vit D. I think I need to upgrade.

Can I ask a huge favor - as someone who really is fairly clueless but always has good bloodwork but gets ill from most Vitamins (ie sick to tummy feeling) what should I order? I need a good bariatric multi that won't make me hurl and a better way of getting more calcium citrate since the pills kill my appetite for like 6 hours. I am post menopause and have good Iron stores (even after plastic surgery blood loss!) so don't need Iron.< /p>

My main issue right now is my appetite is poor. I am feeling so excited to weigh 140, but these last 10# came off on their own not according to my plan... a little scary actually. I am okay getting down to 135 but absolutely do not want to get smaller so I need vitamins that don't kill my desire to eat even further.

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Hmmm let me ask this - can you call up various ones and ask for samples or your surgeon for samples? I know one of the groups around here had a month where they let people sample stuff and they could choose what they like and what worked for them.

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