I was sleeved in Mexico on March 5th 2013. That puts me 11 wks post OP, give or take. I have lost over 50 lbs, I am 5 lbs from my goal weight of 145, I am 5' 6". (Yes, I was one of those, I weighed 201 lbs when sleeved. My BMI was 53.) I can only consume approximately 300 calories a day (more or less) or I will throw up (3 or 4 tablespoons of food ain't very much and everything makes me sick). I have only been able to gag down 40 ounces of water A DAY tops until 2 days ago, 2 days ago, I got down 7 cups of water and maybe 500 calories. My blood work is good. Iron levels are great. I got to stop my HBP medicine, (which I have been on for years, very happy about that). There may be something going on with my kidneys, I'm hoping that my inability to drink water or eat is giving them nothing to do so at the risk of being EVEN sicker I am.... gagging and/or puking and/or throwing up and re drinking eating to try and make sure my kidneys have something to do so they test in the normal zone when retested this Tuesday....I love being thin, don't get me wrong....but when does the "sick" part stop....I have been assured that it does, I have been told I will enjoy food again, I have been told that I will be able to taste, and smell normally and will eat 1000 calories a day, but WHEN!!!!!!....it seems when I browse through the forums, that people can immediately eat anything they want right after surgery and it never effects them, they don't get sick, they just feel guilty.. sometimes I'm glad I'm so sick cuz then I know I WONT be eating too much....but I'm depressed, I'm tired, I'm weak and I have no strength or energy....seriously, 3 quarters of my life is spent with a headache and on the verge of nausea...any advice would be GREATLY appreciated, I did not read anywhere that I would be this sick for this long....I remember watching an episode of the Osbourne's once and Kelly told Sharon to eat something, Sharon replied "oh Kelly, you KNOW I get sick when I eat" I didn't know what she meant by that until I heard she had gastric bypass, THEN I knew...but I THOUGHT.... us sleevers were a different breed and could avoid the same crap as bypassers, was I wrong??? (P.S please don't just tell me to go to my doctor, as I indicated above, I already have) THANKS for your thoughts!!!!!! xo

Uh, BMI does matter 100%, because not all heights are "obese" at a BMI of 30. Some people would be "underweight".

You are confused. Not all WEIGHTS are obese at a specific height, but a BMI inherently has already considered the person's height and weight (that's why you put both into a BMI calculator). Her BMI pre-op was 32.4, and ANY BMI or 30 or above is obese according to NHLBI categories, which are universally used by physicians and insurance companies. Here you go: http://www.nhlbi.nih...BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih...ity/bmi_tbl.htm

You are confused. Not all WEIGHTS are obese at a specific height, but a BMI inherently has already considered the person's height and weight (that's why you put both into a BMI calculator). Her BMI pre-op was 32.4, and ANY BMI or 30 or above is obese according to NHLBI categories, which are universally used by physicians and insurance companies. Here you go: http://www.nhlbi.nih...BMI/bmicalc.htm http://www.nhlbi.nih...ity/bmi_tbl.htm

P.S.--the preop BMI she listed was obviously a typo, since the exact weight and weight loss were listed. It most likely was meant to be 33, not 53, a rounding of the 32.4 number.

Ummm... Hehehe....ok

http://en.m.wikipedi...Body_mass_index

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

Ummm... Hehehe....ok

http://en.m.wikipedi...Body_mass_index

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

P.S.--the preop BMI she listed was obviously a typo, since the exact weight and weight loss were listed. It most likely was meant to be 33, not 53, a rounding of the 32.4 number.

Well I am not one to ASSume, she typed 53 not 33 and considering the FIVE and the THREE are not near each other, I will still NOT ASSume that. My insurance and SURGEON required that I meet my BMI requirement and weight requirement thus I could not lose weight during the supervised weight loss attempt. That is for BOTH of my insurances.

My surgery was done at a "Center of Excellence" whatever that means, but I'm told it means they know there stuff. I've heavily researched bariatric surgery for nearly 5 years before making the decision and both BMI and weight are factors (plus the comorbid).... Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible. Sorry, I'm a high caliber student; my brain has been taught to think critically and rationally, not to assume, and not to take information that is not from a resource that holds validity and reliability.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.

Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.

Actually, the web Site with the BMI calculator is part of www.nhlbi.gov--which is the NIH's National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which is an authoritative government resource and the gold standard for physicians and insurance companies to calculate BMIs. I am not trying to hurt your feelings, I just wanted you to understand that a 30 BMI or above is obese at ANY height, because the BMI calculator includes both weight and height in the calculation. I think what you may be confused about is that a specific weight may not be obese, depending on the person's height. That is why a BMI calculator is helpful. Also, I am not trying to argue with you, but I do think it's important to correct a misstatement such as a 30 BMI can be underweight depending on your height--so other people reading the thread who don't know a lot about BMIs aren't misinformed. I wasn't assuming re: the OP's BMI--I calculated it based on the weight and height and total weight loss the OP provided, using the NHLBI BMI calculator. I agree that seeing the incorrect BMI in the initial post was confusing, and I did comment on it in my first response to the OP. As for medical advice, the only thing I recommended to the OP is that she see talk to her surgeon and/or see a gastroenterologist who has specialty knowledge in bariatric surgical patients.

Well I am not one to ASSume' date=' she typed 53 not 33 and considering the FIVE and the THREE are not near each other, I will still NOT ASSume that. My insurance and SURGEON required that I meet my BMI requirement and weight requirement thus I could not lose weight during the supervised weight loss attempt. That is for BOTH of my insurances.

My surgery was done at a "Center of Excellence" whatever that means, but I'm told it means they know there stuff. I've heavily researched bariatric surgery for nearly 5 years before making the decision and both BMI and weight are factors (plus the comorbid).... Thanks for the website, but it's not a .org, or .edu or .gov, nor is it a scholarly journal, and therefore I do will not consider the inaccuracies possible. Sorry, I'm a high caliber student; my brain has been taught to think critically and rationally, not to assume, and not to take information that is not from a resource that holds validity and reliability.

The gal came here to make sure she was not alone, and she's not. She needs to see her surgeon, another bariatric surgeon, the ER or her PCP. None of which we are. By the way, since providing legal advice is against the law, we better find out if providing actual medical advice is against the law too.[/quote']

Hmmm, I think everyone is shaking their head and wondering how to respond to this and rightly, they have decided not to. However, I would like to say that it is obvious that you are "a high calibre student" but you are also a high calibre pain in the butt.org.edu.gov.

Thanks for the laugh, Aussie Lady! Well said!

Hmmm, I think everyone is shaking their head and wondering how to respond to this and rightly, they have decided not to. However, I would like to say that it is obvious that you are "a high calibre student" but you are also a high calibre pain in the butt.org.edu.gov.

Ahh, but you still read and responded didn't you? Don't like what I have to say, don't read it. Oh, and it's not "high calibre" its high caliber. Calibre is a font, I believe.

Actually, the web Site with the BMI calculator is part of www.nhlbi.gov--which is the NIH's National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, which is an authoritative government resource and the gold standard for physicians and insurance companies to calculate BMIs. I am not trying to hurt your feelings, I just wanted you to understand that a 30 BMI or above is obese at ANY height, because the BMI calculator includes both weight and height in the calculation. I think what you may be confused about is that a specific weight may not be obese, depending on the person's height. That is why a BMI calculator is helpful. Also, I am not trying to argue with you, but I do think it's important to correct a misstatement such as a 30 BMI can be underweight depending on your height--so other people reading the thread who don't know a lot about BMIs aren't misinformed. I wasn't assuming re: the OP's BMI--I calculated it based on the weight and height and total weight loss the OP provided, using the NHLBI BMI calculator. I agree that seeing the incorrect BMI in the initial post was confusing, and I did comment on it in my first response to the OP. As for medical advice, the only thing I recommended to the OP is that she see talk to her surgeon and/or see a gastroenterologist who has specialty knowledge in bariatric surgical patients.

Feelings are not hurt; overweight, obese and morbidly obese are significantly different.

The link did not work nor does it end in a .gov

Further, who are you to correct another person’s misstatement? How do you know she made a typo or misstatement? I have a strong feeling that considering she was not obese or morbidly obese, has resulted in severe malnutrition & mal-absorption. If you can perhaps login to your local library district and access their scholarly journal databases you will see that Bariatric Weigh Loss surgery has been highly debated amongst the medical community, and recommended to be avoided for people who are only “overweight” because it can have significant negative consequences. I would be happy to post some, but journal articles alone can be 12-200 pages, and are only accessible while in the database (which is a paid subscription). Read and absorb not what media outlets want you to read and believe.

You can use all the Rhetoric you want, but at the end of the day, a spade is always a spade. I initially tried to give helpful hints too, until I saw the misleading stats and began to question it. Now, considering we are each entitled to our own opinion, and you are not clearly going to change my opinion nor will I change yours. We can continue, or agree to disagree.

At the end of the day I still stand by my words that you cannot help someone who has provided false information.

LOL thanks Laura!! I was starting to feel like I was in an alternate universe!!!

Girl,

Somebody's in an alternate universe, but it's not you!

And a BMI of 30 is not obese for an individual that tall. She's 5'6 so 145 is a BMI of 23.4

I'm going to break it down in easy terms here....

Body Mass Index (BMI) is a number calculated from a person's weight and height.

So if a person is at a 30 BMI, he or she is obese.

It does not matter if they are 4'9 or 5'9!!

Oh and yes I think the op miss typed... It happens all the time here.

The link did not work nor does it end in a .gov

the link does work and it's a .gov URL--it has an extension at the end bc it's a subpage of www.nhlbi.nih.gov. If you want, you could go to the home page and navigate to the BMI calculator that way--it will still get you to the same place.

I am going to chalk all of this up to the fact that it looks like you had surgery about a week ago and you are probably still on full liquids. I remember that time well and it was very trying! I hope that you are doing well. Wishing you all the best.

Who has the popcorn?

Who has the popcorn?

Are you implying that some of us might be "high"

And have the munchies??