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Just remember when you have to cheat we are also working on being in Ketosis for maximum weight loss. I am only 5 days out and I "cheated" today with stage 1 turkey and broth baby food with a little salt. I was so hungry and weirdly enough it was good! I tried to defend myself by saying "I know I'm only supposed to have liquids' date=' but I was told to use applesauce for my ground up Vicodin so what's the harm?" Needless to say I feel fine but I'm super paranoid there is a turkey flake stuck in my staple line...ugh! Look up Ketosis on Pubmed or anorexia and you will find thousands of publications. You are not in danger of becoming anorexic...anorexics are practically forced those calories and they don't make good choices. Think celery, iceburg lettuce and things with little nutritional value.[/quote']

Oh my. Ground up Vicodin? I do not even think the apple sauce will hide that nasty bitter taste. You are brave! :)

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Here's the formula......... Before surgery: Eat wrong or too much = no ill side effects until later.. (you get fatter)

After Surgery : Eat wrong or too much = pain, damage to internal organs, pain, complications, more painful surgery, no weight loss, possible death.

Reason for surgery = refer to above "after surgery".

If there were no consequences, it wouldn't work. Scared straight is what makes it work.

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I paid for it myself and they pushed me through really fast. My pre-op appointments with the psychiatrist and the nutritionist were a joke. I was so not ready for this surgery, but here I am six weeks later.

I had a hard time being on the liquids and started on purees a couple days early. I think that helped with my outrageous cravings.

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Oh my. Ground up Vicodin? I do not even think the apple sauce will hide that nasty bitter taste. You are brave! <img src='http://www.bariatricpal.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

It's disgusting!! I went almost a day and a half but last night I was so uncomfortable from the stupid drain and my neck from sleeping all weird. Now I just put it in some powerade-z then stick a sugar free pop in my mouth to drown the taste. I can't find sugar free liquid Tylenol here either so same deal with that. Yuk yuk yuk! :-P

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It's disgusting!! I went almost a day and a half but last night I was so uncomfortable from the stupid drain and my neck from sleeping all weird. Now I just put it in some powerade-z then stick a sugar free pop in my mouth to drown the taste. I can't find sugar free liquid Tylenol here either so same deal with that. Yuk yuk yuk! :-P

I do not think you need to worry too much about the sugar content in the liquid Tylenol as it is pretty low compared to relief you are going to get from the pain. Let's see, pain versus tbsp sugar? I go for no pain because your pain will eventually go away and you can go back to pills later.

Maybe you could order the SF liquid Tylenol off of Amazon? Amazon is my virtual store for any and every thing!!

Also, talk to your doctor about prescription strength liquid hydro codeine (basically liquid Vicodin I think).

I just have been researching some information about Flector Patches (Diclofenac sticky patches). these are NSAIDs, but are applied externally so might also be something to talk to your doctor about. I want to use them to help with chronic back inflammation unrelated or not directly related to VSG ( back inflammation may have been enhanced by weight loss and the body not adjusting fast enough).

I know pain is no fun. The doctor should be able to help you out in this area so you do not have to gag down nasty bitter crushed up pain pills. :shudder:

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I do not think you need to worry too much about the sugar content in the liquid Tylenol as it is pretty low compared to relief you are going to get from the pain. Let's see' date=' pain versus tbsp sugar? I go for no pain because your pain will eventually go away and you can go back to pills later.

Maybe you could order the SF liquid Tylenol off of Amazon? Amazon is my virtual store for any and every thing!!

Also, talk to your doctor about prescription strength liquid hydro codeine (basically liquid Vicodin I think).

I just have been researching some information about Flector Patches (Diclofenac sticky patches). these are NSAIDs, but are applied externally so might also be something to talk to your doctor about. I want to use them to help with chronic back inflammation unrelated or not directly related to VSG ( back inflammation may have been enhanced by weight loss and the body not adjusting fast enough).

I know pain is no fun. The doctor should be able to help you out in this area so you do not have to gag down nasty bitter crushed up pain pills. :shudder:[/quote']

I know they make sugar free hydro condone but it doesn't have the Tylenol in it and the hospital staff was adamant I take it all in one pill. Maybe it's their way of keeping me off it? No clue on the weird reasoning! Thanks for the tips! I actually have some diclofenac in gel form and I keep forgetting to ask about it!

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I know they make sugar free hydro condone but it doesn't have the Tylenol in it and the hospital staff was adamant I take it all in one pill. Maybe it's their way of keeping me off it? No clue on the weird reasoning! Thanks for the tips! I actually have some diclofenac in gel form and I keep forgetting to ask about it!

You are talking about the Voltaren Gel? I just got some for when I get bad inflammation in my foot ( previous car accident, long story). I can tell when the weather is changing because my foot lights up! Does that make me a super hero with a special power? Lol! Seriously, how well does the gel work? I have not used it yet.

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You are talking about the Voltaren Gel? I just got some for when I get bad inflammation in my foot ( previous car accident' date=' long story). I can tell when the weather is changing because my foot lights up! Does that make me a super hero with a special power? Lol! Seriously, how well does the gel work? I have not used it yet.[/quote']

Yes! I had a stress fracture in my foot and that's what they gave me (200lbs and a barre class are not a good combo). I thought it worked pretty good but not as well as ibuprofen. YES, if your foot lights up you are some kind of super hero...Light Foot Man? Can find hidden items in the grass at night! :-D lol!

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Don't beat yourself up too much, it is hard to change. Just keep reminding yourself on why you had the surgery, and look towards the future. What's done is done and all you can do is pick yourself up and start again trying to stay on your diet :) Good luck with everything!

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I paid for it myself and they pushed me through really fast. My pre-op appointments with the psychiatrist and the nutritionist were a joke. I was so not ready for this surgery, but here I am six weeks later.

I had a hard time being on the liquids and started on purees a couple days early. I think that helped with my outrageous cravings.

I just have two more days until I get to start my pureed diet, and I'm greatly looking forward to it. I am very tempted to start early but I'm going to stick it out.

I think I know just how you must have felt. :wacko:

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I have some great resources for after my surgery but this is one that list calorie amounts in case anyone else had this question: http://www.ucsfhealth.org/education/dietary_guidelines_after_gastric_bypass/

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Ah, more proof that the good old "I bet you didn't pay for this surgery yourself" argument is bull.

Look, this happens, it will happen in the future too, you need to get a grip on yourself though.

This WILL NOT be the last time you make a bad choice, but you need to get real about it. If you consistently make bad choices, you cheat yourself. The thing is, what matters more are the day to day choices, not the every once in a while cheats. I cheat almost once a week, but what I do consistently is more or less the right thing. I don't carry my guidelines around in my bag or anything but I do count my calories and watch the carbs/protein ratio and I suggest you do the same.

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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