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All things considered, it isnt about the calories or the sugar. its about the bubbles. Those bubbles given enough expansion and contraction have the ability to distend(stretch) your sleeve. If that happens you will be able to eat more and more, thus drinking more and more of the bubbly beverages and the cycle continues. My thing is, and this is just an opinion, youve gone through so much, and if you live in the US youve paid quit a bit of money for this sleeve. Youve been to hell and back why ruin it? You are free to do as you wish, just remember what got you into the "i need weight loss surgery" category.

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Bilka try zero carb sobe life Water, Vitamin Water, ,Propel zero they all have the flavors in them but not the carbonation..I would be so afraid to get carbonated water in my sleeve. Since your in Italy I don't really know what is avaliable to you but I have only drank about 32 ounces of water since surgery. I use like crystal light. etc. The taste of water just changed so much for me I guess. When I have nothing else I choose water.

I guess living in Italy is one of the biggest problems with the food so far...

We do not have many sugar free drinks, except for the common sodas like diet coke/sprite/fanta, which I do not drink anyway.

The nutritionist at the hospital wrote down that I could drink things like the ones you mentioned: Vitamin water, Propel zero, Kool Aid,.. And my answer was: "What the heck are they?".

We don't have a sugar free gatorade kind of thing. Having been a diabetic since I can remember I know everything about these things. An example? We don't even have bottles of sugar free deca tea, just to give you an idea.

So my choice is between still water and home made deca tea. I love jell-o, so re-ordered it online (it doesn't even EXIST here, I got it from Ireland!), but I can't do the same with sugar free bottles, that would be too expensive.

So, my sparkling water is NOT as carbonated as the sweet sodas. It doesn't make you burp or anything...

I don't miss carbonated sweet sodas, just water...

Gosh, I am getting ridiculous while trying to justify myself... Shame on me!:ph34r:

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Message me your address and I will send you some Crystal Light!!

It's REALLY nice from you. Thank you but don't worry. I was going out of my mind a little bit, I guess...

Today I have started with jell-o and things are getting much better! I am getting enough Water down so far and I do not feel disgusted.

Again thank you SO much for the thought! :blush5:

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I'll throw out my experience just for s&g's. . .

I've been drinking soda for a year, and have zero ill effects from it. I rarely drink diet soda because most are sweetened with aspartame which I hate. I recently found Diet Shasta cream soda which is sweetened with Splenda so this one is doable.

I can say without a doubt that drinking soda has not changed my sleeve capacity in the least. Nor has it effected my weight loss in a negative manner. My restriction is the same as it was a year ago unless I cheat (take longer to eat my meal, sip throughout my meal, drink a glass of wine or other alcoholic beverage before my meal, drink hot fluids like coffee or tea before my meal) to get more in.

I don't even let it go flat before drinking it. Early out, I would get a gas bubble, burp and it was over.

The whole soda leaching Calcium from our bones is obviously a concern, but in my opinion, moderation is key.

There is ZERO scientific evidence that soda drinking causes stretching. Even for RNY patients, there is no proof that soda causes the pouch to stretch. We have a normal stomach with a pyloric valve intact. The fluids, be it soda, Water, crystal light, all go in, hit the pyloric valve and dump into our intestines. It isn't like the soda is sitting in there brewing for hours on end. Plus, there is NOT enough tissue left to stretch out our sleeves if the surgery is performed correctly. There is only so much stretch that can occur. It isn't like the stomach tissue regenerates, or can stretch back to pre-op size. It just is not physically possible.

Not that I'm advocating going against any particular surgeon's recommendation, but this has been my experience and my opinions on soda drinking post-bariatric surgery.

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Ditto what Tiff said ... OK, ok, ok ... I'm not the "perfect" sleever. I have a few vices.

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I'll throw out my experience just for s&g's. . .

I've been drinking soda for a year, and have zero ill effects from it. I rarely drink diet soda because most are sweetened with aspartame which I hate. I recently found Diet Shasta cream soda which is sweetened with Splenda so this one is doable.

I can say without a doubt that drinking soda has not changed my sleeve capacity in the least. Nor has it effected my weight loss in a negative manner. My restriction is the same as it was a year ago unless I cheat (take longer to eat my meal, sip throughout my meal, drink a glass of wine or other alcoholic beverage before my meal, drink hot fluids like coffee or tea before my meal) to get more in.

I don't even let it go flat before drinking it. Early out, I would get a gas bubble, burp and it was over.

The whole soda leaching Calcium from our bones is obviously a concern, but in my opinion, moderation is key.

There is ZERO scientific evidence that soda drinking causes stretching. Even for RNY patients, there is no proof that soda causes the pouch to stretch. We have a normal stomach with a pyloric valve intact. The fluids, be it soda, Water, crystal light, all go in, hit the pyloric valve and dump into our intestines. It isn't like the soda is sitting in there brewing for hours on end. Plus, there is NOT enough tissue left to stretch out our sleeves if the surgery is performed correctly. There is only so much stretch that can occur. It isn't like the stomach tissue regenerates, or can stretch back to pre-op size. It just is not physically possible.

Not that I'm advocating going against any particular surgeon's recommendation, but this has been my experience and my opinions on soda drinking post-bariatric surgery.

Thank you for clarifying there is no scientific proof that drinking soda causes stretching. I just had this discussion with my surgeon and dietician last week and have been bummed out ever since. I cannot fathom how soda can stretch out my sleeve but they keep arguing with me that it will - although now that i think about it they did not explain why. I know soda has high calories but sometimes i feel i just have to have a soda and i would rather OCCASIONALLY have a soda and cut back on food. I know that is bad but it is a physcological thing with me. I have an appointment with a therapist next week because i am having a very difficult time changing my old habits - eating when I get upset or stressed out. I tend to want to turn to a soda or ANYTHING with a little sugar in it. I guess I have a sugar addiction. Thanks for all your advice - you are so appreciated on this site.

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