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Aside from the minority of people who have slips by no fault of their own' date=' it seems most are due to slips caused by vomiting and bands that are way too tight. The ones who are vomiting regularly are usually doing so because they're too tight, so again, it's totally avoidable.

I know some people probably think I'm a little paranoid, running in for a little unfill just 3 days after a fill, but it's just not worth it to me risk complications from being too tight. I've worked way too hard to get this far to ruin it all with an avoidable slip. That's my logic, anyway.[/quote']

You're not paranoid at all, you're smart!

At my support group we were discussing this very subject. I told nutritionist that I have heard ppl say that they're glad they vomit so they know they're tight. A girl that was a yr out said yes, that you're going to vomit if you're restricted enough. Being I'm not banded yet, I wasn't going to argue with her. I was very happy when nutritionist said" No, there is no reason to vomit, being to tight causes more harm. If you eat properly you should not vomit".

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I'm terrified of my band slipping. Do you find that too tight of a band is the typical reason for this? Or maybe over eating or vomiting?

Speaking from experience, my band slipped because I never did master the art of eating slowly, making me vomit about 4-8 times a week. My band was good for the first 2 1/2yrs, then it had had it with the constant vomiting. Since being unfilled/filled/tweaked since my slip, I've only vomited twice (in 4 mths, I think thats pretty good). I've learned to slow down and eat more often to not let myself be so starving that I gulp my food.

Good luck!

Marci

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Aside from the minority of people who have slips by no fault of their own' date=' it seems most are due to slips caused by vomiting and bands that are way too tight. The ones who are vomiting regularly are usually doing so because they're too tight, so again, it's totally avoidable.

I know some people probably think I'm a little paranoid, running in for a little unfill just 3 days after a fill, but it's just not worth it to me risk complications from being too tight. I've worked way too hard to get this far to ruin it all with an avoidable slip. That's my logic, anyway.[/quote']

You are not paranoid, you are smart. I had a small unfill (.2cc) a couple of weeks ago because some meds i wad taking for a back injury made my band tight to where i couldn't eat regular food. After 48 hrs of this I went back to my doctor. I have invested way too much to mess around with it.

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Aside from the minority of people who have slips by no fault of their own' date=' it seems most are due to slips caused by vomiting and bands that are way too tight. The ones who are vomiting regularly are usually doing so because they're too tight, so again, it's totally avoidable.

I know some people probably think I'm a little paranoid, running in for a little unfill just 3 days after a fill, but it's just not worth it to me risk complications from being too tight. I've worked way too hard to get this far to ruin it all with an avoidable slip. That's my logic, anyway.[/quote']

No I don't think that's paranoid. If rather my band not be that tight either because I know I'll vomit. I know a girl who vomits every single day...idk how her band hasn't slipped yet. I know she wants to lose weight quick but doesn't seem worth it.

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Speaking from experience' date=' my band slipped because I never did master the art of eating slowly, making me vomit about 4-8 times a week. My band was good for the first 2 1/2yrs, then it had had it with the constant vomiting. Since being unfilled/filled/tweaked since my slip, I've only vomited twice (in 4 mths, I think thats pretty good). I've learned to slow down and eat more often to not let myself be so starving that I gulp my food.

Good luck!

Marci[/quote']

Thank you! I appreciate hearing about anyone's experiences so I can avoid complications. I'm still working on eating slower. I take a book with me to the table now because I can't just sit there a half hour doin nothing

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I believe nutella is a healthier type of peanut butter' date=' if I'm not mistaken[/quote']

I WISH!!!!

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No I don't think that's paranoid. If rather my band not be that tight either because I know I'll vomit. I know a girl who vomits every single day...idk how her band hasn't slipped yet. I know she wants to lose weight quick but doesn't seem worth it.

Yeah I don't get that, either. I've never vomited in the almost 9 months I've had the band. I'd probably freak out if I did, being honest. In my opinion, people like that girl you speak of vomiting daily to lose weight has now crossed over to being bulimic. It's a very slippery, dangerous slope.

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I don't know if all doctors do it but my band is sewn permanently to my stomach wall. My doctor said that most slips come from vomitting so violently it tears the stitches. Is anyone else's band stiched to the stomach wall?

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My post-op diet was liquids for the first week, right back on solids the next week, so it may not be a physical danger for you, but your doctor surely had a reason for the diet you were given. What's done is done, but definitely talk it out with your doctor. You'll have to take the responsibility for the decision you made, explain why and talk it out with him or her. Don't start out making this a prisoner/warden relationship with your doctor, s/he is there to help you, not belittle you, and perhaps if you are feeling up to solids you may even be able to be cleared for them.

Be safe, and make the best choices you can for yourself, that's all we can do.

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I don't know if all doctors do it but my band is sewn permanently to my stomach wall. My doctor said that most slips come from vomitting so violently it tears the stitches. Is anyone else's band stiched to the stomach wall?

I do believe now days everyone's band is sewn to their stomach wall to help anchor it in place.

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to my understanding, from what my dr told me, bands are sewn in to help hold it on place

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Where did you get your info, on the internet!! I work with bariatric patients who go through wls and are well educated on the types of wls.

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You are 100% wrong. The band actually regulates the hormone that causes hunger' date=' the small pouch above it tricks your body into thinking it's no longer physically hungry when in the past it would be. Don't be fooled into thinking the band is going to stop you from eating anything. That is not it's job. There's a reason so many people continue to over eat and learn how to eat around the band- because the band was never meant to physically stop you from eating.

Dr. Simpson is one of the pioneers and leading experts in Lap Band. He explains it here:

http://drsimpson.net...estriction.html

"When talking about the band, some patients talk about restriction. Let's first be clear about one thing: the purpose of the band is not restriction; the purpose of the band is to lose weight by suppressing the appetite.

When band professionals talk about restriction we are talking about something totally different than "restricting what a person eats." In fact, many band surgeons avoid talking about restriction so as to not confuse patients. The band works by dimming the appetite, and this provides a conscious control and decision made by the patient, it does not work by "making" a person do something, or keep them from eating too much.

The Lap-band works by suppressing your appetite

As a result, you are less interested in food between meals, making it easier to resist temptation. The analogy is when you are near a vending machine when you are hungry-- what do you do? Probably find yourself with some junk food that is not a part of your plan. But, when you pass a vending machine when you are full, it may not even catch your eye. Having the appetite dimmed makes you less tempted by the many food choices modern living throws at you - -this is what the band does, by suppressing appetite you become less interested in food.

What you should not feel, with the band, is the sensation of being "stuffed."

When you eat Thanksgiving dinner, you can feel stuffed. Contrast that with the sensation two hours after you eat your big meal, at that point your appetite is suppressed. It is the subtle dimming of the appetite that the band should provide. Being stuffed after a large meal is a complicated sensation of the abdominal wall stretching and a lot of gas in the bowel, in addition to feeling a diminution of appetite. You will not, and should not, feel the abdominal wall stretch with the band. You should not feel the "near nausea" and you should not feel bloated.

Key point:

You should NEVER eat until you feel full. It is best to stop eating before you "feel full." If you do eat until you feel full you will most likely be overstuffed. This leads to the universal key to success -- patients who eat a small volume of food (which, if you measure, is consistent) will be successful with the band. If you want to succeed, you need to know how much you are eating, and then stop eating -- it is in your control, but the band will help you -- not by stopping you, but by allowing you to feel satisfied after the small volume."

Can you name this hormone that regulates? And how does it regulate it??

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Where did you get your info, on the internet!! I work with bariatric patients who go through wls and are well educated on the types of wls.

if you are referring to me, i got that from dr paul enochs, my surgeon.

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