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i think both Spartan and elfiepoo make very good points. i agree with spartan on the fact that it is important to follow doctors orders, make sure we are using a surgeon we can trust, and etc. however, i also agree with elfie in the fact that it's obvious how varied different surgeons instructions are for both pre op and post op diets for the same procedure: lap band. with that knowledge, i think it's up to the particular person to decide whether or not they want to totally stick to their doctor's orders or take the knowledge they have and slightly veer from the orders to something they feel suits them better all the while keeping in mind the possible effects it might have whether those would be good or bad. i don't think elfie was trying to tell people not to follow thier doctors orders but rather that each person should be informed enough about their own surgeon's orders and the procedure they had to make their own choices and decide what's best. as adults, we all know all our actions have consequences and we should all keep that in mind no matter what we do. =)

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each person should be informed enough about their own surgeon's orders and the procedure they had to make their own choices and decide what's best. as adults, we all know all our actions have consequences and we should all keep that in mind no matter what we do. =)

Exactly. :wub:

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Hi, I can see where you are both coming from.

Like Elfie, I trust my doctor. I chose him because I am an RN, and lucky enough to know which surgeons have good outcomes. That doesn't mean I have to ignore my own knowledge and experience of my own body. He also knows me, and trusts my judgement. I don't even get to see him again from day of surgery until 6 weeks later, so I guess he expects me to make a few decisions myself.

Like many of these topics, they demonstrate that we are all different. That difference also includes our knowledge and the amount of research we have done. My research is not only forums - I research medical journals, peer-reviewed studies, and have over 30 years experience. However, me discussing what I have chosen to do is in no way encouraging others to ignore their doctors advice, and I am not saying do what I do. I am also adult enough to be responsible for the consequences of my choices.

Having worked with surgeons for many years, I know that their advice can vary for many reasons - their research, age, experience, habits, ability or otherwise to embrace change, and the source of their original information.

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I'm with Elfie on this one. My surgeon is brilliant--at performing surgery.

He also happens to be really on-the-ball about nutrition. This is a bonus I didn't expect, but was thrilled to receive.

Most North American surgeons are not. All the "due diligence" in the world won't change the fact that the vast majority are just regular guys with opinions when it comes to nutrition. The most honest among them will freely admit this.

We choose them for their surgical expertise. If you get more, you are fortunate. Most do not.

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I'm with ElfiePoo on this one- informed choice and self accountability.

It's my only body whether I like it or not, and I'm not a suing kind of person unless something truly deserves it. It is my body and I have to take ultimate responsibility for it and what I do with it (and what harm I've done with it in the past).

I think that's the whole point of weight loss surgery- it is elective, which means we are actively choosing responsibility for our health and well-being. That includes choosing my doctor, and researchingresearchingresearching many different venues.

That doesn't mean I don't listen to and trust my doc. But I don't expect him to be 100% accountable for me and the consequences of my choices. My doc wouldn't want that, which is part of why I trust him. We have a good adult partnership. So we bargain sometimes- all in my best interest.

However, if he insists on my doing three weeks of mushies, then, groan, that's what I'll do.

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