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Chickie I just read the article too and just assume they were crazy people who were emailing you because I don't know why else someone would be so abusive to you. You should be proud of your accomplishment and I understand why you would be a bit resentful to people but really we're not all like that here and I don't know one person here that is and if they do it by Pming you then lock it up,

I don't get emails postings now! brandyII-n

Okay I have to go to bed, I don't know what the time difference is in Australia, is it 12 hours, I suppose I could look it up on the internet but I'm too tired watch too many "jazz hands" today at a dance recital!!!

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"when people start requesting that they remove your name from their friendship lists I guess it's time to be the bigger person"

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removed as a sign of good will

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I'm sure many of you read that last post from me that I've just deleted and many will get it in their inboxes as I left it up for a while. I'm not ashamed of it, not trying to hide it, but really,

what's the fricking point? I'm not making any new points, just fuelling the arguments, its not necessary.

In short, I've blocked several who I think are either slightly insane, unreasonably vicious or actually trolls just trying to start trouble.

So if you dont like what I have to say.. BLOCK ME. Then you never have to deal with reality again.

And thank you for those who appreciate my musings on this weight loss game and have been big enough to say so. It means heaps.

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This *Jasmine* makes other Jasmine's look bad.

My name is Jasmine...that Jasmine is an idiot though.

It's rants and raves...We'll bitch if we want to :)

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I'm thinking she's a troll too Froggi. Nobody could really feel that heated up over something on the internet that didnt even happen to her, surely? I've had this experience with trolls before, they suck you right in, you think they're real people when in reality they're deliberately stirring the pot and having a great old time at the chaos it creates.

If not, I just dont get it . I accidentally posted on the mental health board (just as I have done on the 200+ board and the men's board, both quite inappropriately, lol). I will try to be more careful. But I dont really have much to contribute to a mental health board, nor to the men's board so I dont deliberately go there. So I dont get, if this R&R upsets our delicate flower Jasmine so deeply, why the hell does she keep coming back and posting here. That's why I think both she and BrandyII may be tolls.

I think R&R is brilliant. I'm a member of several other boards and at times, it has gotten awfully nasty when a debate has arisen, in the past its been politics and attachment parenting that I've seen it happen in. The boards have been destroyed by the fighting and bad feeling from one single thread/debate. That's a shame.

At least here, its all aside from the main boards and its not there in your face if you dont want to be involved. So I really cant figure why if it upsets Jasmine so much why she keeps popping up.

Its simple Jasmine. Turn off your computer and go and do something else.

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Argh, and that's just totally uneccessary too. I'm just trying to have the last word, which is really pretty pointless.

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Wow what a mess this has ended up being. It was never my intention for everyone to get so upset but I just felt that some things being said on here were very harsh and I made my point as to why. I certainly do not condone people attacking the OP and her defenders.

Also, I have not and never will have a problem with anyone who has been successful with their weight loss. Jacqui you and Chickie as well as others have done a fantastic job with the band and I wish to be one of you in the future. A friend of ours was banded a couple of years before me and she has lost 40+ kgs and is now a size 8. She looks fantastic and she said that she never planned to get to a size 8 but she just never stopped losing. She doesn't have much in her band now but is maintaining really well. I can't imagine people being so nasty about your weight loss. Human nature is a funny thing, remember the tall poppy syndrome, sounds like it is running rampant here. Chickie unfortunately when you put yourself out in the public eye, you will always have the weirdos come out of the woodwork. I have experienced that in another situation I was in.

I thought Nanook was someone new but now I realise it is Brandy. Brandy, I don't understand why you needed to do that. Unfortunately it doesn't help your situation because it makes you look dishonest to some people. I am happy to support you if and when I can, so please keep it real.

Take care everyone and remember the written word is always different to a F2F interaction and sometimes it's easy to post things we wouldn't say to someone if they were right in front of us.

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I didn't read this thread, just the last couple of pages, but from what I read here and on the other thread, this is my take. Right or wrong, this is what I see.

Those who are not doing well, not watching well what is going in their mouths, not exercising or not exercising enough, they seem to be the folks that are all about head patting and supporting negative behaviors. Those that busted their butts and did the job have the attitude that they did it, anyone can.

Seems to me this is where the conflict, nasty undertones, and P&A posting is coming from.

We've already chased away one member (Laurend), perhaps it is time to let this die a big bad sorry death.

Wasa hit the nail on the head here. We need to agree to disagree and move on. No one should feel their feelings are hurt. We are not close personal friends. No one is betraying anyone. This is a messageboard and really shouldn't mean that much on a personal level. Sometimes it's best to step back and re-evaluate what's important. And what's said on a messageboard, in the grand scheme of it all, is NOT that important.

Move on people, nothing to see here!!!!!

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I'm hitting unsubscribe to this thread. Seems like the conversation has gone all over the place and I'm finished with it.

I have enjoyed reading though. We are a varied lot of folk, no?

One closing thought however, I love seeing and hearing from people at goal. Your experiences are so very valuable, I appreciate that you share them.

Rock on.

Juli

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Good Morning All,

Well to start off, no I'm not a troll. I've been a member since 2005, if I was a troll, wouldn't I have started up some mess earlier on? I guess I could say my behavior last night was fueled by 3 years of taking the higher road and moving on. I will do that now. Not to say I can't take the heat. I definitely can. But in saying something, I became exactly the type of poster that I dislike. For that, I truly am sorry. I will not appologize for the rest. I meant it. But I will try to not feed into this anymore. Have a good day, everyone.

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good morning everyone.

i've seen several requests to close this thread and / or let it die ...

the easiest way to do that is simply to not visit and post here anymore.

voila - no debate, the thread will die... simple.

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removed as a gesture of good will:thumbup:

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I didn't know we chased away Laurend. She was posting on this thread last night:confused:. Look, I've been successfull, too. I've fallen off the wagon and am in the process of dusting myself off. I busted my butt, too. Just like a reformed smoker, there is nothing worse than a reformed fatty. Even when I was at my best, I still had some class about it. What does it matter if we are still offering support for people not doing it OUR WAY? If these types of people offend you, just move on. Don't start a whole thread to knock them down even more. They will find their way, eventually.

Who said anyone had to do it a specific way? Nobody.

The bottom line is that you have to burn more calories than you consume, how you do it is completely up to you.

As I TRIED to explain already, there are two extremes posting here and nobody is really finding a balance here. The balance is not head patting for someone that does not want to watch what she eats and does not want to exercise. What is anyone to say? Every suggestion was knocked down and finally the admission of she just doesn't want to. So what is left to say?

Draw those claws back in, I was pointing out both extremes and how it doesn't help the person in the least.

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All I can say is ROAR lol

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