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I eat low carb but I don’t feel I need to be in ketosis. I feel that my gut biome needs the healthy seeds and veggie fibers and starches from tubers like potatoes. I also feel that it’s the best way to keep “digestion” working well. So I end up with around 30-60 g carbs a day. No junk carbs. My snack is 86% dark chocolate. But controlling carbs keeps me losing and eating plenty of healthy fat keeps me losing too.

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I had started to think of these forums as a safe place. Lots of smart, wise people around and even when there is drama, it's usually pretty silly and innocent. I didn't know that there were gross private messages being randomly sent out. That makes me super uncomfortable and very unlikely to post any "after" photos here. Hello, it's 2018? Are we not appreciating that #metoo is a thing now? Or are bariatric ladies just supposed to be happy they're getting attention?

I ain't smiling in my profile photo! Take that internet weirdos!

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About 50-80g per day for me. I'm getting about 1000-1200 calories a day at 8 weeks out.

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4 hours ago, LaLaDee said:

I had started to think of these forums as a safe place. Lots of smart, wise people around and even when there is drama, it's usually pretty silly and innocent. I didn't know that there were gross private messages being randomly sent out. That makes me super uncomfortable and very unlikely to post any "after" photos here. Hello, it's 2018? Are we not appreciating that #metoo is a thing now? Or are bariatric ladies just supposed to be happy they're getting attention?

I ain't smiling in my profile photo! Take that internet weirdos!

Oh come on. I :780_sparkling_heart: you. I do. But, this **** happens everywhere. Welcome to Al Gore's Internet. I absolutely urge you to do what is right for you. You do you. But this is life. There are pervs in life. We are strong and secure and make our own choices. We can choose to NOT be victims and have the chance to make healthy choices. The End.

Lurkin' Larry is either a letch or a 14 year old boy. His presence here is part of the human condition--sadly. But it doesn't mean that BP is an "unsafe place" to do before or after pics. That being said--BP is the INTERNET! Anyone, anywhere, anytime, anyhow should consider whether or not to post pictures to it for all eternity. It truly is your permanent record. Do you want your kids, parents, grandkids, et al to see what you post? That's how you should think of BP. BP is not an intrinsically un-safe place, and 1 perv does not make us all pervs.

That being said, I STILL have my baudy sense of harmless humor and am so thrilled to read these drama-laden threads. I jones for them. I'd like to read more of them--cuz they make me bust a gut laughing. I am SOOOO sick of everyone taking life so fuc*ing seriously. *sigh* I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE. (pppssst This my lame ass attempt at lightening this comment...it probably didn't work as I thought it would) :D Ahhh Network, good times.

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I think the point LalaDee is making....is that sexually predatory behavior....isn't funny or entertaining to women who have been raped. Treating it like a joke, or like "it's no big deal...get over it"....is victim shaming.

So what if Lurkin Larry is a 14 year old boy? HE is the person who needs to be corrected if you're passing out corrections.

Why "correct" another woman for voicing her concern about sexual predation?

23 minutes ago, FluffyChix said:

But this is life. There are pervs in life. We are strong and secure and make our own choices. We can choose to NOT be victims and have the chance to make healthy choices. The End.

You are essentially saying...you have the choice to be raped or not. Which is absolute bullshit:)

Rape has nothing to do with having a choice. Why defend and accept rapists?

Fluff....I'm picking on you here a little because you took someone's comments and made them a platform for your political rant.... instead of just accepting that LalaDee has a different perspective than you do and is entitled to express her concern.

I'm doing the same thing to you now. Do you enjoy it?

Live and let live...that's all I'm saying.

And send the "corrections" to the people who commit the crimes, not the people who are upset about them.

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28 minutes ago, Creekimp13 said:

I think the point LalaDee is making....is that sexually predatory behavior....isn't funny or entertaining to women who have been raped. Treating it like a joke, or like "it's no big deal...get over it"....is victim shaming.

So what if Lurkin Larry is a 14 year old boy? HE is the person who needs to be corrected if you're passing out corrections.

Why "correct" another woman for voicing her concern about sexual predation?

You are essentially saying...you have the choice to be raped or not. Which is absolute bullshit:)

Rape has nothing to do with having a choice. Why defend and accept rapists?

Fluff....I'm picking on you here a little because you took someone's comments and made them a platform for your political rant.... instead of just accepting that LalaDee has a different perspective than you do and is entitled to express her concern.

I'm doing the same thing to you now. Do you enjoy it?

Live and let live...that's all I'm saying.

And send the "corrections" to the people commit the crimes, not the people who are upset about them.

No. I'm not saying this at all. I'm taking 1 individual situation here in this forum. That's all. No other situation.

Of course there are rapes. NO we don't have that choice and that is a victim crime. I 100% agree with that. It is also a COMPETELY different topic to what I am talking about here in this instance. I was speaking specifically that because there is 1 perv on this forum, then suddenly the safety of this forum is suspect. THAT is what I'm speaking to here. And it's a false statement.

And, sadly, I am not meaning to shame LaLaDee. I AM however choosing to express my opinion just as she did and am defending this forum as a wonderful and safe space for us--if we use our noggins. We are not gonna get raped on this forum. We can do things to protect ourselves. We have power (IN THIS FORUM).

What I'm saying is that I'm voicing MY opinion about how strongly I feel that BP shouldn't get perceived as an unsafe place.

I'm also saying that life and the Internet are for all to see--perves included. Use your head, be safe, but don't throw the baby out with the bath Water. I'm also saying I'm tired of having to take everything so damn serious every time we hit a bump in the road? (And yeah, if he's a 14 year old boy, his parents should woop his ass for pervin. And he should be banned if Alex decides to ban him.)

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Have decided to remove myself from this one.

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Unfortunately this is another thread that probably needs to be dumped in the trash.

Jumping to conclusions and taking others comments out of context seems to be a theme around here.

Fluffy
I am a rape survivor and do NOT find your comment out of line. Some people need to be reminded that when you are on the WWW you are letting it out for universe, big brother, and creeps far and wide to see. Using caution and being discrete are common sense rules when using the internet.


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How about instead of teaching women to "follow safety rules", we teach men to not be predatory rapists? The focus is dated and needs to change.

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Thank you for speaking out, in my generation you were taught it was your fault, not the rapist. Thank God the pendulum has swung totally the other way. God Bless and keep you. I know how hard is to step forward and say Me Too. I salute and honor you for it.

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I agree that there is a huge difference in our generation. I was never conditioned to accept pervy behavior in any situation. I just considered the source in this particular case and move beyond it and know that these people exist in life--and the internet makes it much more certain you will see them. I just choose not to get bent over it.

I'm defending this forum as a safe and lovely place for us. Not defending pervs. (Unimportant to the argument but my back story: I was physically abused on multiple occasions as a child/teen. So trust me, I get it. I know the emotional fallout and know what I've been through to process those emotions and thoughts. I just choose to move forward, view people as basically good/kind rather than mean/nasty/pervy, and choose to view myself as victorious over my struggles. I also try super duper hard to find some tiny grain of humor in most situations in order to deflect any bounce into sadness, depression, doom and gloom, etc and despondency. That doesn't make me better or worse than anyone else. It's just a coping mechanism I've learned to combat the trials of living. I'm sharing this because I want you to understand that I am intimately acquainted with this subject matter and don't take my position on the subject lightly.)

@NegreteLove ((hugs)) to you my friend! I'm sorry for your experience and struggles and so happy to see your victorious self shining through!

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I know in my case if I would have followed basic safety rules I would not have been kidnapped and raped by a stranger.
I am in no way at fault for his intentions or actions but I am absolutely responsible for my own safety.

I never said women I believe all people who are capable should be responsible for their own decisions and safety.

There is no such thing as teaching a rapist not to be a predator. They are sick whether from genetics, environment, or chemical. Does this excuse the behavior no...but it tells us to teach others basic safety rules to help prevent becoming a victim.

How did this convo go from some pathetic internet troll to rapist?

Anyway easy action would be to report the nuisance and move on.

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1 minute ago, BlueCrush said:

Well... This topic certainly got derailed.

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Question of the Day: How many carbs in coffee? But more importantly how many cups does it take me to go off the rails on Day 6 of my pre-op liquid diet? :D

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