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Hello fellow bariatric patients,

I'm in Canada, my surgeon wanted a 12 week liquid diet pre-op. Before I get into the details here's my story in highlights:

- 34 Male, 5ft11in (180cm)

- Severe weight gain over a few years (from 180 to 360 peak in 5 yrs)

- Caused a number of sudden issues (stage 3 liver fibrosis, pre-diabetes/diabetes, increased GERD, L5/S1 compression fracture, high bp/pulse, depression, etc.)

- S3 Liver fibrosis: initially diagnosed cirrhosis w/fibrotic scan but after biopsy (which they did after I told them I'm not an alcoholic) revealed stage 3 fibrosis&no cirrhosis - prior ultrasound suggested 19cm or larger, not sure

- Diabetes (5.4 1 year ago to peak 7.9, down to 6.1-6.4 now and likely will drop again w/March 1st A1C workup)

- Everything is currently contained w/meds (10mg forxiga, 2x metformin tabs 2 times a day, hydrochlorathiazide (1 small tablet a day), cipralex (1x tablet a day), metoprolol 75mg 2x day, 1 capsule of prevacid generic, 2 Vitamin D tablets because Canada) - resting hr 50-80 (previously 80-110), bp 110-130/60-80 (previously 150-175/100-115)

- Initially suggested bypass but because of age (34) had my surgeon and two second opinions all suggest sleeve so I wasn't gonna argue, they said if I didn't like results of sleeve could get bypass after 1 yr

- 12 week liquid pre-op diet started Feb 1, OR date April 20

- Dietitian was pissed off at 12 week diet saying she will talk to surgeon, obviously didn't convince him

- Weight changes: (ignore the column to the left, I haven't figured out how to change it)

∙ Feb 1: 350

∙ Feb 4: 336

∙ Feb 15: 322

∙ Feb 17: 319

∙ Feb 22: 314

Daily Pre-op diet plan (1400 cals):

- 6 bottles of Glucerna (<- yech)

- 1 serving of sugar free Jello (4x per container)

- 4-9 cups clear fluids (i.e. broth) w/extremely low cal/carb

- 2 scoops Beneprotein

- 3.7L Water

I have to say, this has been the hardest thing in my life. Not so much the sticking to diet part, but keeping down this Glucerna stuff. It's so disgusting! I couldn't help but regurgitating the stuff in the first few days. I had 1-2 Glucerna for the first few days, resulting in being extremely calorie deficient.

Even with my wife helping trying to flavor w/spices (i.e. cinnamon) for berry/vanilla I just couldn't take a few flavors, wound up settling on chocolate, making sure the stuff never touches the front of my tongue, otherwise I'll upchuck.

Stomach was going nuts w/hunger the first few days, since then haven't been able to stomach more than 1-3 Glucerna a day, eventually it stopped bothering me so much - but has resulted in first couple occurrences of "lows" (low blood sugar). Have been eating more broth though closer to the 9 cups, and taking Multivitamins, and having daily amt of Jello. Body seems to do fine.

Haven't had a normal stool the entire time, all liquid.. (I assume thats normal?)

The concern of mine is my paranoid dietitian freaking out and nearly wanting to call off the surgery because I wasn't having the amount of Glucerna she wanted. To the point where I had to lie to her about how much I was having a day, as I've waited 1.5 years to get to this point. Can't see how going nuts on me is productive. Already have my wife nagging at me.

Has anyone had an issue w/not having sufficient calories not causing liver to shrink going into surgery? Or light malnutrition affecting whether or not surgery was done? Pretty much everyone I read has like 2-6 weeks and I'm stuck with 12. This is absolute misery, but I'm perfectly ok doing what I'm doing as long as the end goal is met and nothing causes my surgery to be cancelled (i.e. liver not shrunk enough).

Steven

Edited by PatientEleventyBillion

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Omg sorry! That sounds so obsessive but I don't know how long it takes a liver to shrink

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On 2/22/2017 at 8:35 PM, Spousalunit said:

The docs are telling us to lose 10% of our weight before sugery.

its funny I lost about 20% in the first few weeks and they want me on 12..

will be seeing surgeon for endoscopy on Monday hope he can change the date

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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