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When I wanted to start gaining back some of the 200+ lbs I lost after weight loss surgery. Which is a long way of saying never.

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i think we have different definitions of what a "good" food is. For me - Pasta, rice, bread are just empty carbs that take up valuable real estate in my sleeve without offering anything good nutrition-wise. SInce my sleeve limits how much volume I can consume, I want to focus on consuming things that actually provide nutrition like Protein and non-starchy veggies.



Plus for many post ops - Pasta and rice are not tolerated well since they tend to swell in the stomach which will make you very uncomfortable/miserable after eating.



If you want to add carbs to your diet, do it - it's your body but don't expect the same weight loss results as someone who doesn't. And if you eat them and don't reach your goal weight, understand that it is because of the choices you made and not that the surgery failed.


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@@mallnut not for me. Some people do well with moderation, others need to abstain in order to have success. I am one of those who needs to abstain. Since I've lost over 200 lbs and am maintaining at a healthy weight, I'd say I've made the right decisions for myself.

I consider all the food I eat now to be good food. Noodles, rice, Pasta, bread, and white potatoes are all bad foods* to me, not good foods. If I'm going to have a treat at Christmas or for my birthday, I'm going for the gusto -- a slice of my mother's famous pecan pie or a piece of my father's legendary Yorkshire pudding with prime rib drippings. Not a (to me) boring bland bowl of noodles that are neither fun nor nutritious.

*shorthand for foods that do nothing for me nutritionally, cause me to have cravings for more high carb foods, and/or are not particularly appealing anyway.

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I asked a simple question.. but in return everyone is getting back with such harsh comments and remarks... the reason we all did this is because we love food .. and now cuz everyone is loosing weight u guys hate food that is just tasty n not that nutritional... talk about hypocrisy

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I'm five years out and I tried Pasta and rice maybe two years after my surgery because I was nervous to try it.. those foods are fillers for me.. if I eat those I won't get my Protein in at all.. don't mind the harsh comments.. we are human and as human we learn from experience. I love rice but now I can not eat it because it hurts when I eat it.. I think for everyone to say they don't spurge or go of course every now and then is total BS ... If you try it talk to your Nut first and see what he or she has to say on a good time frame to try it. They might advise against doing so, but you never know they are human to who indulges here and there also I am sure.

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It's not hypocrisy. As you rightly mentioned, eating for pleasure got me to over 400lbs and limited mobility, high blood pressure and borderline diabetic. I understood when I decided to have surgery that food and I could no longer have the same relationship. It's a hard mindset to change but if I want to be successful (which I do or I wouldn't have had a major surgery to significantly alter my body) I have to stop thinking of food as comfort and pleasure and treating food as what it is supposed to be - sustenance only. I find pleasure in the activities I can now do.

So I don't hate food because I'm losing weight. I'm getting healthy because I changed my relationship with food.

Any of the successful post ops - of which there are many on here and I plan to be one of them - will tell you this process is much more mental than physical. The surgery is just a tool to help you as you actively address the mental aspects. The surgeon only changes your stomach, you have to decide if you want to address the issues that led you to needing surgery and if you do, that work to address them is all on you.

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i love when people say they will never eat carbs again, one day your going to binge and your going to feel so bad. one day i hate to say it your going to eat carbs, you need to get a good relationship with food to know how to limit. i would love to hear from someone 10 years out saying they have never eaten carbs...

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i love when people say they will never eat carbs again, one day your going to binge and your going to feel so bad. one day i hate to say it your going to eat carbs, you need to get a good relationship with food to know how to limit. i would love to hear from someone 10 years out saying they have never eaten carbs...

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I would also.. I'm 5 years and guess what.. I eat cake on my birthday and my son's birthday. I gave up carbs in the beginning but now I don't scarf down a bag of chips or eat half a cake to myself.

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i love when people say they will never eat carbs again, one day your going to binge and your going to feel so bad. one day i hate to say it your going to eat carbs, you need to get a good relationship with food to know how to limit. i would love to hear from someone 10 years out saying they have never eaten carbs...

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I would also.. I'm 5 years and guess what.. I eat cake on my birthday and my son's birthday. I gave up carbs in the beginning but now I don't scarf down a bag of chips or eat half a cake to myself.

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see! you've changed your relationship with food and that's the most important part otherwise you would fail, i wish more would realize this instead of saying "no never have carbs" it's going to come up in life!

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I eat carbs - but i choose them wisely. I don't have rice, Pasta or white potatoes or white bread. All vegetables have carbs. and once I'm further out, I do plan to have whole grains like oatmeal or a half slice of whole grain bread occasionally. But binging on pasta and potatoes? Not in my plan and if I do it, I will consider that as a personal failure that day on my part and get right back on track. I know what trigger foods I have that I need to avoid because they will just cause me to want more. You seem so convinced that I will never be able to avoid binging on pasta - do you think every recovering alcoholic in AA is DESTINED to stay an alcoholic? Or is it possible to mature enough to know your issues and develop coping mechanisms to prevent going down that slippery slope again? If I wanted to continue to eat the way I had been, I personally wouldn't have gotten the surgery.

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I eat carbs - but i choose them wisely. I don't have rice, Pasta or white potatoes or white bread. All vegetables have carbs. and once I'm further out, I do plan to have whole grains like oatmeal or a half slice of whole grain bread occasionally. But binging on Pasta and potatoes? Not in my plan and if I do it, I will consider that as a personal failure that day on my part and get right back on track. I know what trigger foods I have that I need to avoid because they will just cause me to want more. You seem so convinced that I will never be able to avoid binging on pasta - do you think every recovering alcoholic in AA is DESTINED to stay an alcoholic? Or is it possible to mature enough to know your issues and develop coping mechanisms to prevent going down that slippery slope again? If I wanted to continue to eat the way I had been, I personally wouldn't have gotten the surgery.

i didn't say pasta, i just said carbs in general. everyone on these forums always say no carbs bread etc. see you had them. the point is to learn how to eat healthy, i didn't say go to olive garden get pasta and breadsticks now did i? i said one day you will eat carbs.... i know one day i'll eat carbs again it's making the correct choices as i stated. changing your relationship with food. people on these forums i tell ya

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
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