361 Days Later: My Story

[Chianti 28]

Wonderful and inspiring story!!! I was sleeved on 4/20/2015 HW 344 SW 301 CW 240, I've been stuck between 233-240 for the past 2 months. Did you stall? If so, how did you conquer? Thanks for sharing your story

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

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I haven't had any really long stalls. If I have a 2 week period where I haven't lost anything I either increase or decrease my calories for a day or 2 and that breaks it.

Do you log your food? What are your Protein, and carbs each day?

[Chianti 28]

^{@@OutsideMatchInside I had stopped logging my food for a while and just focused on "mindful eating". As of July 1st, I've started back logging, weighing daily and trying my best to get in at least 60 grams of Protein daily. I'm on the right track and am hoping this stall break soon! Thanks for response!}

[chycky 671]

@@OutsideMatchInside are you using a Keto calculator app, and if so which one?

Thanks for that background/lesson!

[Babbs 14,680]

You've done incredibly well and are a true inspiration! I've always enjoyed your point of view on things and your posts. Amazing story! So very proud of you!

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

@@chycky

I use this http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/ to come up with my macros like I said above.

Then I set my goals in the LoseIt app/website to match those macros. Like I have 100g of Protein as my minimum, 12-14% of my calories from carbs and 40-45% of my calories from fat.

Edited July 13, 2016 by OutsideMatchInside

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

@chycky

This is a normal day for me. The exception is I don't always have ice cream. I stuck all my Water after Breakfast on dinner so it would show my whole food log in one shot.

These are the macros

[sleevedinseptember 69]

Congratulations on such an amazing achievement. Your energy and zest for life really shines through. I was particularly struck by what you said about pushing through the stalls instead of giving up like we would have preWLS! I've been stalled for a little over a month but my surgeon says that's because my body has reached the weight that could realistically be expected from WLS. I'm going to have to fight and work hard for the next 30 or so pounds that I want to lose and your story has really inspired me to push on. Congrats again!

[sondra2368 26]

There are so many Keto apps I don't know which one to download. Any advice here?

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[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

@@sondra2368

I have never used any Keto apps, so I can't offer any recommendations beyond the ones I provided already.

[higher 966]

@@OutsideMatchInside how long did it take you to first notice your mind was sharper from low carbing? I've heard this from other people as well and it fascinates me. And were you ever tested for celiac? One more: what is your threshold for low carb? On the Reddit Keto board people say under 50-60 grams, some need to go much lower to notice the positive effects. I'm curious for a WLS perspective to that question.

I have been low carbing off and on since 2001, so most of my experience is prior to WLS. I would say once you burn off the sugar in your body and get over the sugar withdrawals you start functioning normally. Maybe 6 weeks you notice you are firing on more than all cylinders. It is subjective and I can only go by my experience and the experience of my friends. If you read the stuff by the Bulletproof guy he swears by it, but he is also into a lot of other bio-hacking, some based in science some whacky. The difference with post-op on WLS surgery is takes you a while to be able to eat enough calories to really be clear in your mind. At least 800 calories daily for me, to fuel working and just regular activities. When my calories were below that I was fatigued a lot.

I don't have celiac and I don't have a gluten allergy and most people that claim to have gluten allergies have never been tested. I mean think about it, if people were allergic to gluten, most of the population would be sick, it doesn't make sense. Most people are reacting to too much sugar.

I don't tolerate sugar more specifically HFCS. HFCS makes me sick. It is too much sugar too fast and it floods your system. People say sugar is sugar and that is kind of true, but how different sugars react in your body is very different.

I try to stay at 25 net carbs per day and no more than 75 on a carb day. I only count net carbs because I really need my Fiber and net carbs makes the most sense. Really with just eating meat and veggies, it is pretty hard to break even into 25 carbs. I really have no idea how people end up eating so many carbs. I had ribs yesterday so today I am just eating fish and a lot of veggies so I will post later what my carb count is with all the veggies I eat. If people are seriously just eating meat and green veggies is impossible to have a high carb count, counting net carbs or actual carbs.

I think if you seriously low carb for a long period like WLS patients should be doing you are going to have to carb cycle some, or your body just gets used to it and nothing happens. I am still experimenting with this.

This day is bad because I had a Fit Crunch Bar

I have one day a week that I usually have carbs, I had to add some carb cycling because I was stalling a lot. Saturday I had fish tacos and pizza all day and it was pretty glorious.

This is the nutrient break out for that day.

This is a high carb day for me and my net carbs are 32.5. I also went to Starbucks in the afternoon and had a Trenta Cold Brew, but I always order it black and add my own half and half.

This is a day I didn't really feel like eating much

/r/keto has been a really big help to me. I can't eat the fat they eat, but there are lots of good tips there. I use the Keto Calculator to calculate my macros to set in LoseIt. It is awesome because well most people can't handle the huge fat deficits that we can, they would be too hungry, but WLS patients can go on and take the max fat deficit. The weight loss forecast it comes up with there is also really helpful. It tells you at the points you have to increase your calories.

I want to add that I am not just coming up with how and what I eat on my own with stuff I have found on the internet. Things I have researched have lead me in this direction but I also am in contact with two University Professors.

My biggest issue right now is I don't eat enough calories for my RMR or my activity level. It is pretty hard to up my calories but I am trying to slowly. I don't have a diminished metabolism at all and I want to keep it that way. The best way to do that is to keep adjusting your calories higher as you lose. Leaving them low for a long period, lowers your metabolism.

Hey OMI, thanks for this very detailed response. I wasn't able to respond for a few days and just getting around to it now. I'm still way too soon post-op to tailor my macros at this point, but I've bookmarked your post and will come back to it in a few weeks. I really appreciate the level of detail. Interesting point on the carb cycling.

Why do you say you can't eat the fats they eat on /r/keto? If you are also trying to up your calories, wouldn't some added fat do that?

Anyway thank you again for sharing all of your info. You must be past the 365 day mark at this point so congratulations again on all your hard work and success.

Also re: celiac, I got diagnosed during the pre-op process for the sleeve which is why I asked but I'm going to make a separate thread for that.

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

@@higher they eat more fat than Protein, that is what true Keto is. I need to get at least 100 grams of Protein so that doesn't leave much room for fat.

I need to eat more avocados but it is hard to eat them before they go bad.

I wanted to actually show a true account of what I eat. A lot of people say what they eat and claim they are tracking but where are the food logs? People need to put up or shut up.

Edited July 19, 2016 by OutsideMatchInside

[higher 966]

@@OutsideMatchInside ohhhhh, i get it. I noticed some of them will just straight up take spoonfuls of oil to get there. I have to spend more time reading.

Avocado-eating anywhere outside of Cali and Mexico is a struggle.

[OutsideMatchInside 10,166]

MCT oil is a good way to get energy for a work out, but you have to build your tolerance for it, because it goes right through you until you do.

[bigmamaAfrica 49]

Congratulations! You are doing so well and are very in tune with your body and its needs. Curious to know what app you are using to log your food?

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