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Well I've been tracking my foods and I struggle to eat enough calories in a day. Even my thin husband comments on how little I eat. So it really isn't Portion Control I have a hard time with, just the choices. I know that after putting in all this work and pain to have surgery I'm not going to want to sabotage it so I think it'll help me make the better choices for what I need to eat. I just needed to hear from someone else that this really will help. :)

If you are truly staying overweight on "too few" calories. Weight loss surgery won't help you, you have something else going on. How many are too few?

There are days when I struggle to even eat 1000 calories. My doctor in the past said for me to lose 1lb a week I should be eating between 2000-2400. Because of my thyroid I gain weight if I even LOOK at a carb. So eating a diet consisting of mainly carbs was causing me to gain weight. Not because of total calories but because of the type of calories.

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

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I plan fully on committing to this. I never said I wasn't going to. I was asking if this can help when weight gain before was from eating crap vs eating large portions of everything.

Basically no. If you stay fat on very few calories it probably won't help. How many is it you get in a day? You say you struggle to eat "enough" how many is enough?

And don't count on surgery making it harder to eat anything--it might, but many people have "sleeves of steel" and can eat anything. Most of us can eat crackers and chips no problem.

Lots of people don't feel like eating ANYTHING at first and that part might help you change your patterns and tastes. But it's basically a restrictive procedure. If you gain weight on 900 calories a day, you need to talk to an endocrinologist or something because this probably won't help.

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Well I've been tracking my foods and I struggle to eat enough calories in a day. Even my thin husband comments on how little I eat. So it really isn't Portion Control I have a hard time with, just the choices. I know that after putting in all this work and pain to have surgery I'm not going to want to sabotage it so I think it'll help me make the better choices for what I need to eat. I just needed to hear from someone else that this really will help. :)

If you are truly staying overweight on "too few" calories. Weight loss surgery won't help you, you have something else going on. How many are too few?
There are days when I struggle to even eat 1000 calories. My doctor in the past said for me to lose 1lb a week I should be eating between 2000-2400. Because of my thyroid I gain weight if I even LOOK at a carb. So eating a diet consisting of mainly carbs was causing me to gain weight. Not because of total calories but because of the type of calories.

Yeah.... Actually many of us can't lose weight on 2000-2400 calories. In fact most of us gain on that many. But if you can't lose on 1000 calories a day then again I don't know how it could help you.

I can eat carbs for sure, the appetite reduction you get for 7-12 months might help you change your carb habits, but after that it's pretty much up to you.

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Also in the other thread you told us you had a husband and 5 kids. I am guessing they won't help you and adopt a healthy lifestyle along with you. Do you think you will be able to resist all the bad foods that will still be in your house?

And remember from what people post on here, I wouldn't know because I have never been a chip fan, chips and all that stuff goes down the easiest post-op. They basically break down to nothing in your mouth and they slide right through your system.

If that stuff is around do you have a plan to resist?

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

I think we are. You asked if it would help you change what you eat not how much, right?

We are all addressing that. It won't change what you can eat, just how much. And SOME people have trouble (stomach aches etc) when they eat some foods.

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My husband already knows we can't have junk in the house anymore. He's sad about it but supports me on it. My kids also don't need to eat junk so they'll survive the changes.

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

We are reading your words but it doesn't seem like you are reading ours.

What people are trying to tell you is that the things you like, you can still like post op. Not only can you still like them, you can still eat them. Not only can you still eat them, but they are the easiest to eat.

So yes, everyone is reading what you are saying. We are trying to warn you that WLS won't fix that issue, and you have to change your relationship with food, because all the stuff you want to eat, you can still eat post-op and nothing will stop you but you.

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I promise we are trying to help you sort it all out.

If I were in your shoes I'd go for it and give it all I have to try to be successful. perhaps getting weight off might help your issues, as we know that fat is hormonaly active in the body.

with thyroid issues your progress may well be hindered, but what else can you do? right?

I figure I will loose what I can, and keep it off as long as I can, there is always the chance that I will loose all the excess and keep it off - but if it buys me even 10 more years to watch grandchildren grow then it will be worth it all.

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

We are reading your words but it doesn't seem like you are reading ours.

What people are trying to tell you is that the things you like, you can still like post op. Not only can you still like them, you can still eat them. Not only can you still eat them, but they are the easiest to eat.

So yes, everyone is reading what you are saying. We are trying to warn you that WLS won't fix that issue, and you have to change your relationship with food, because all the stuff you want to eat, you can still eat post-op and nothing will stop you but you.

And as I have said, I am fully committing to this. That means changing what I eat. How is that not understood? I was wondering if WLS would work when what I HAD EATEN (not do eat, but had eaten) was the cause of the gain. I am NOT going to continue eating the same.

I see not point in saying this over and over.

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

Yes.

We read.

If you are going to fully commit to WLS then your original question is a moot point.

Think about it for a few seconds......let the term "fully commit" sink in. You've answered you own question. :D

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

We are reading your words but it doesn't seem like you are reading ours.

What people are trying to tell you is that the things you like, you can still like post op. Not only can you still like them, you can still eat them. Not only can you still eat them, but they are the easiest to eat.

So yes, everyone is reading what you are saying. We are trying to warn you that WLS won't fix that issue, and you have to change your relationship with food, because all the stuff you want to eat, you can still eat post-op and nothing will stop you but you.

And as I have said, I am fully committing to this. That means changing what I eat. How is that not understood? I was wondering if WLS would work when what I HAD EATEN (not do eat, but had eaten) was the cause of the gain. I am NOT going to continue eating the same.

I see not point in saying this over and over.

If you are able to change what you eat and have already done so, what would be the point of surgery?

Most of us have surgery as a tool to help us change the behaviors that made us gain. For most of us that includes portions in addition to types of foods.

You've said your only behavior was choice of type of food and you've already changed that. You don't need help to change that because you've already done that.

The surgery restricts food amounts. You don't need that, so I really don't see how it will help you.

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You are still trying to convince us that you were actually eating 7 chips and not over eating. Not many people are going to believe that.

You are tracking your food now and saying you aren't losing weight and barely getting enough calories in. So that has been the case you whole life? You ate 1000 calories a day for the past 42 years and got to 368?

You know a bunch of fat people aren't going to believe that...

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I'm going to say this again... I am fully committing to WLS. I am planning 100% to change what I'm eating (in fact already have) and will not sabotage the surgery.

Sorry if I sound snippy but I feel like people aren't actually reading my words.

Yes.

We read.

If you are going to fully commit to WLS then your original question is a moot point.

Think about it for a few seconds......let the term "fully commit" sink in. You've answered you own question. :D

Thanks, for summing it up so well.

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