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@@*Lexie*

Great post.

I like to think of this whole process as kind of like having kids. Everyone *thinks* they know what it's going to be like. They imagine all the good parts....the cherubish faces, always well behaved, always willing to please us, always respectful, perfect children we are going to have. Then you actually have them, and realize although there are many, many good things, raising kids is one of the hardest but most rewarding things you're ever going to do if you are willing to put the work in. And most of the time, it's NOTHING like you expected ;)

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@@Nibbler Ghrelin is a hormone and it comes back!

Well, there's quite a bit of debate about that -- about whether ghrelin comes back (ghrelin is the hunger hormone that's produced almost solely by the fundus portion of the stomach, which is removed during VSG surgery), how fast it comes back, where else it gets manufactured -- or whether it really doesn't come back and we just get used to eating more because we can and imagine that it's because we feel "hungry."

But your point is taken -- most people immediately after VSG surgery don't feel hungry anymore and imagine that they will never feel hungry again.

To which I also say, Ha!

It's how we respond to that hunger that will make us a long-term WLS success -- or not.

I have to say one other thing: I am developing a big old respect for everyday HEALTHY HABITS. I am learning to be less impulsive, more scheduled, a better planner, and (ahem) more disciplined than I used to be. The more I practice healthy habits, the stronger my habits become.

At 70 years old, I'm still bending my twig in the way it should grow. We are never, ever too old to get better.

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I'm still bending my twig in the way it should grow.

That's what HE said. :D

LOL.

This brings a whole new meaning to "exploring one's roots"! ;)

Edited by 4MRB4PHOTO

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Oh, you guize!

:)

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@@Babbs Great analogy, I laughed when I read that!!! Oh, I remember how I was never going to let my child watch television or have junk food and they would be perfect little specimens. Now I'm just happy if my son can manage to pick up his shoes... it's funny because it's true!

@@Nibbler I was a basket case at 6 weeks. It does get better.

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Maybe I am just naive...one week post op, but this thread shocks me! How in the world can you have this done and then eat all that Red Lobster food? Fries, fried foods, dip, soda? I have had a pretty rough week of recovery and I do look forward to a day when food and drink does not consume my every thought, but I can't imagine just ignoring my health, throwing all that money down the drain and completely eating whatever I want. How is it physically possible? Thank you for posting this...it is definitely a little reality check for me! Congratulations on your weight loss...you aren't just 'lucky', I can tell you are a very strong, motivated woman. Good on you!!

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We were what we ate pre-op. We are what we eat post-op. I can understand that fear of regain. I am slightly fearing I have reached the end of my honeymoon phase, as my loss has slowed so much all of a sudden. And I am working my tail off try to lose as much as possible.

I don't know you, personally, @@Elode, but you seem too motivated to let that happen to you. Its a psychological war, on the daily, to worry about things like this. I remember you saying that you are not the exercise type. But your journey, your decisions, have been successful, you have been successful for you. The fact that you even realize how the others have messed up their chance, shows you know better. Keep coming here to vent, or help, or get help. We all believe in you!

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@ being just 5 weeks post op I can tell you in just a few more weeks you're going to feel better physically and you will begin to have some what of an appetite. I get hungry more frequently than i used to. Have to carry something with me at all times.

The dr. kept telling me "this is a tool not an answer" I'm starting to realize more and more each day what she meant.

We must keep this resolve we have now into the future because I agree with you....how could I go through this sort of life changing/damaging surgery and then start sucking down milkshakes & candy bars.

Dr. Phil has a saying "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior"

We have a challenge ahead of us. I will rise up to meet it because if not.....i'm just going to die an early death. Not a lot of super obese old folks living is there??

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I'm not even sure what's happening anymore!

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I think we all decide if we want to go back and look the way we did at one time. I sure eat what I want but with moderation. I cannot over eat specially that picture with all that food lol I would feel sick! We all

Know it's a tool and does help out very much! I think that people were probably not really ready in having the surgery and they just go back to the way they once were. It's like why have surgery in the first place then? I know I wouldn't want to gain the weight I've lost because I feel great and proud of myself. Everyone is different and we are not "lucky"we are just doing what we need to ???? and working our butts off. Great post!

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@@dlappjr Thank you and yes I'm the "exercise failure" I'm not perfect by any means. I do like to exercise (using "like" loosely here) once I get going but it's never been anything I have stuck with. Maybe someday it will just hit me!! Wishful thinking!

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I am however motivated to exercise when I'm standing in front of a full length mirror naked. Maybe I should invest in one of those??! I'm still kind of fond of my soul though, so probably not.

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