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The people today that expect everyone else to accept them despite the harm on society that their lifestyle causes, shame on them.

I, and every freedom loving Constitutionalist resent and are VERY intolerant towards people that expect us to disappear.

Two questions, 1) what harm specifically does a "gay lifestyle" cause to society? 2)who has said anything about anyone disappearing?

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Seriously?

The disintegration of the family.

Aids epidemic.

Health care crisis.

And yes, by denying a group of people their beliefs and way of life, you'd make them disappear. Thing is, if it weren't for the AIDs thing, and having to be force fed their lifestyle at every turn (witnessed by the aforementioned lawsuit, dispraportionate representation in the mass media, specialized legislation) I could care less what they do.

In our own company a few years back, we had to listen to a long presentation on how the company couldn't afford our defined benefits plan, mainly our health care. This should be near and dear to the people on this forum right? The footnote to this refrain of a sad sad song is that now, the company, bowing to the public relations Columbia University educated chuckleheads found it in their infinite wisdom to include "Partners" in the benefits program.

Direct effect on me, my wife, my family and all the folks I work with is increased costs, decreased benefits, and a greater risk to our livelyhood.

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Seriously?

The disintegration of the family.

Aids epidemic.

Health care crisis.

How have gays contributed to the disintegration of the family?

How have they contributed to the health care crisis? And are you aware of the many straight people who have AIDS?

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Heaven knows that are PLENTY of dating sites out there and a good majority of them are targeted to specific audiences. There are gay sites, straight sites, big and beautiful sites, christian sites, jewish site... and on and on. I would rather invest my time exploring sites that I find interesting to me rather than wasting time complaining about sites that don't allow X,Y or Z.

Quite frankly, I'd prefer people got this upset over the fact that there are so many Americans who can't afford health care and a large amount of elderly Americans who can't retire because they can't afford to pay for their Rx medications.

That's my spin on things.

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Seriously?

The disintegration of the family.

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Personally what other people do in their home has no effect over my family. Why do you let it have an effect over yours?

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<p>My head is exploding...</p> <p> </p> <p>I was going to write a whole bunch of stuff but basically I just want to say you'll have to deal with gays at some point other than thinking they are a tiny minority...(commerce dictates what you see on TV and people want gay folk's money and that's 10% of the population...but I digress) When one of your children or your neice or nefew whom you love turns out gay you'll need to examine truely how you view the world based on bias and hate.</p>

Tolerance is not a bad thing.

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Seriously?

The disintegration of the family.

Aids epidemic.

Health care crisis.

And yes, by denying a group of people their beliefs and way of life, you'd make them disappear. Thing is, if it weren't for the AIDs thing, and having to be force fed their lifestyle at every turn (witnessed by the aforementioned lawsuit, dispraportionate representation in the mass media, specialized legislation) I could care less what they do.

In our own company a few years back, we had to listen to a long presentation on how the company couldn't afford our defined benefits plan, mainly our health care. This should be near and dear to the people on this forum right? The footnote to this refrain of a sad sad song is that now, the company, bowing to the public relations Columbia University educated chuckleheads found it in their infinite wisdom to include "Partners" in the benefits program.

Direct effect on me, my wife, my family and all the folks I work with is increased costs, decreased benefits, and a greater risk to our livelyhood.

You think family values are threatened by gay people? How, exactly, do they accomplish that? Are they corrupting people left and right.....signing them up for the gay/lesbian lifestyle and luring them away from their conventional families? I don't think so. People do not "become" gay/lesbian at some point, and certainly not because some recruited them.

And adding life partners to the insurance plan at your work isn't the only thing that has impacted premiums. Are you equally angry at the smokers? And the people with body piercings and/or tattoos(increased risk of all blood-borne diseases). How about all the fatties? Obesity is way more costly to your employer (and you) than homosexuality. Besides....very few companies provide coverage for spouses/partners for free. Those people are forking over big bucks for the privilege of insuring their partners. What about the guy who has six children....he often gets a good deal because both he and the employee with a wife and only one child pay the "family rate". Are you mad at him, too? Nothing in life is absolutely fair and equitable, Porkchop. Deal with it.

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Carlene, you go girl. That porkchop almost had me convinced at first that he/she/it was seriously concerned about bigotry and discrimination. Then I read the rest of his/her/its post. HA. Glad you set him/her/it straight!

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You'll not see white entertainment tv. You'll never read about the white caucus. You'll never have a white pride parade. You'll never have a white history month. You'll never have a white suing the gay internet sites. This is how far we've come, and I'm glad for it. It's far past the time that people show the same respect for freedom of opinion and lifestyle instead of trying at every opportunity to degrade someone that does not hold their beliefs and lifestyle and allude that they're a bigot.

All TV is white TV. All history which is taught concerns the deeds and activities of dead white men with very few exceptions. This is why we don't need a white history month nor do we need white TV. Straight white Christian males have typically dominated the world scene. They have been - and generally speaking continue to be - the rulers of European and North American countries as well as the governors of the colonies of these countries and they have typically been the rulers of the financial institutions which drive the world. This is why we white folk don't need a Pride Parade.

Of course white women didn't fare quite as well and that is why there are special initiatives set up in order to benefit women, just as there is Black TV, Black History month, and Gay Pride parades, class action suits, etc. Yes, this is a form of reverse discrimination but you should think of it more as being like a golfer's handicap. This apparent unfairness may be required until the playing field has been levelled.

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Here's the irony of it all, the gays feel that THEY should be able to make eharmony and it's customers believe in, and associate with them. <br /> <br /> In fact, the gays, an extreme minority in this country, have far exceeded the reach of their percentages as far as special legislation and consideration for their tiny population. Watching American television, one would think that half the country were batting for the other team. Enough's enough.<br /> <br /> You'll not see white entertainment tv. You'll never read about the white caucus. You'll never have a white pride parade. You'll never have a white history month. You'll never have a white suing the gay internet sites. This is how far we've come, and I'm glad for it. It's far past the time that people show the same respect for freedom of opinion and lifestyle instead of trying at every opportunity to degrade someone that does not hold their beliefs and lifestyle and allude that they're a bigot.<br /> <br /> So, who's the intolerant bigot here? I say it's the gays and the American Criminal Liberties Union that are the thought police. <br /> <br /> Martin Luther King had it all right. The people today that expect special considerations are being bigoted, discrimanitory, and exclusionists, shame on them. <br /> <br /> The people today that expect everyone else to accept them despite the harm on society that their lifestyle causes, shame on them<br /> <br /> I, and every freedom loving Constitutionalist resent and are VERY intolerant towards people that expect us to disappear.
Who's the intolerant bigot here? 'Tis you, Porkchop.

It's obvious you hate "the gays" and the ACLU (who defend The Constitution, by the way) and so I laugh when you call yourself a "freedom loving Constitutionalist". What rubbish.

How dare you mis-paraphrase MLK when it's obvious you don't know a thing about him -- just quit while you're behind.

How is it bigoted to expect to be treated equally and fairly?

You're just silly.

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Heaven knows that are PLENTY of dating sites out there and a good majority of them are targeted to specific audiences. There are gay sites, straight sites, big and beautiful sites, christian sites, jewish site... and on and on. I would rather invest my time exploring sites that I find interesting to me rather than wasting time complaining about sites that don't allow X,Y or Z.

Quite frankly, I'd prefer people got this upset over the fact that there are so many Americans who can't afford health care and a large amount of elderly Americans who can't retire because they can't afford to pay for their Rx medications.

That's my spin on things.

I have to agree with you, Elizabeth. Add to that my respect for good old American commercialism. It's a business, folks, not a public service. Is it any different from the women-only gyms? For that matter, how about the DAR....they won't let me join because I don't have an ancestor who fought in the American Revolution. Ditto for the Daughters of the Confederacy and the Daughters of the Republic of Texas. My pedigree does not fit their membership criteria, so they are allowed to exclude me. How is E Harmony any different?

I think we can carry civil rights, like everything else, to the extreme. And then we will find ourselves stepping on virtually everyone's toes.

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Quite frankly, I'd prefer people got this upset over the fact that there are so many Americans who can't afford health care and a large amount of elderly Americans who can't retire because they can't afford to pay for their Rx medications.

Me too! There are so many things to get upset over!

eHarmony sucks, but it's always sucked, and there are so many great gay dating sites out there that it shouldn't be an issue. I think they just want to stick it to 'em.

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Seriously?

The disintegration of the family.

Aids epidemic.

Health care crisis.

And yes, by denying a group of people their beliefs and way of life, you'd make them disappear. Thing is, if it weren't for the AIDs thing, and having to be force fed their lifestyle at every turn (witnessed by the aforementioned lawsuit, dispraportionate representation in the mass media, specialized legislation) I could care less what they do.

In our own company a few years back, we had to listen to a long presentation on how the company couldn't afford our defined benefits plan, mainly our health care. This should be near and dear to the people on this forum right? The footnote to this refrain of a sad sad song is that now, the company, bowing to the public relations Columbia University educated chuckleheads found it in their infinite wisdom to include "Partners" in the benefits program.

Direct effect on me, my wife, my family and all the folks I work with is increased costs, decreased benefits, and a greater risk to our livelyhood.

Mate, Porkchop it is 2007 and not 1957. Families are diverse now. Why should a person's life partner be excluded from a benefits plan?

No good reason that I can see. That would be blatant discrimination, and that is not to be tolerated on any level.

Susannah

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Porkchop, and her ilk, make me vomit. How much more intolerant, self deluded, ignorant and hateful could she be?

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