No bread. No steak

[CarmenLeAn 99]

I've been told no bread and no heavy steak ever again.

I'm confused. Did anyone else get these rules? Also no asparagus

[MandaMom23 684]

Hmm, I can eat bread (most days), and I've had steak, as well as asparagus without trouble. Haha. Other than very thick bread and sometimes Pasta (all depends on the day!), there really isn't anything I can't eat.

[terrydumont46 1,954]

i was cut back to one red meat a week. but i can eat whatever i want to. just follow the rule of Protein first, vegetable second and carb lastly. with the fills i have i am just able to get down the Protein and perhaps a salad. as far as steak goes which is my red meat of choice i only ate about 2 ounces the last time i had it. but my PA makes suggestions she doesnt say no . like my favorite snack is popcorn. i can eat it without a bit of problem so we worked out the amount and i bought a air popper and i can put on 2 tbls. of melted butter. but it is a occassional snack i save for football sunday. go hawks!

[parisshel 1,892]

I haven't had bread or steak (and a number of other things) since being banded 10 months ago. Certainly immediately post-banding these would be problematic for all...but could, I suspect, be part of one's choices eventually. I see lots of people on this platform that work in steak and breads and Pasta into their eating plans.

My band doesn't tolerate these, and I don't even want to see if this has now changed, because I know (for bread, at least) that carbs trigger overeating for me. So I just stay away. The band makes it a whole lot easier to avoid these.

[B-52 7,113]

In my experience, rules are guide lines, that mean very little in the beginning....

I've been told no bread and no heavy steak ever again.

I'm confused. Did anyone else get these rules? Also no asparagus

I was told, and given a handout with a list of do's and don't s, many of which made absolutely no logical sense....and I told them what I thought....both the Dr and NUT laughed at me and said "Learn them to memory now...there will come a day you will HAVE to live by them...just wait and see...."

And they were right....now, if I don't follow certain rules, I would not be able to eat at all.....nothing would stay down unless I follow certain guidelines, and stay away from certain foods.....

And learn I did...THE HARD WAY, from numerous stuck episodes and other problems, that were not there in the beginning...

So, eating meat and bread, as well as many other things like rice and Pasta, may not make sense to you right now...but eventually, it might mean whether you are successful or not...

I read many posts were people get that fill, and then are very upset they can't get anything down, they're getting stuck, etc....then go back and get a un-fill.....THEN turn around and say the band is not working, they're not loosing, etc....and then they are told they have to do all those things you would do on a traditional diet, as though they never even had the surgery....and that it is hard work!

I'm not speaking for everybody, but I do see this vicious cycle.....perhaps, if they learned the rules in the beginning so that when they did reach that place,after a few fills perhaps, they would not have had so many problems? And would not have been so quick to blame the band?

Just a thought....

Edited January 24, 2014 by B-52

[kll724 3,055]

I was not handed those rules. But, my surgeon has advised me that steak (and from my experience) is a no no. I seldom have bread and only eat the asparagus crowns. The rest of them are way to stringing and harsh for our digestion. I , also, only eat the crowns of broccoli. Follow your surgeon's rules, obviously they are given for a reason! Karen..aka.kll724

[☠carolinagirl☠ 18,722]

i (by my own choosing) do not eat bread

since i can only eat so much, i now choose to eat better foods and breads (rice/pasta/potatoes) just do not do anything of value nutrition wise in my opinion (although i miss me some biscuits)..i eat steak all the time...

i find some people can eat whatever they want (if they go slow, chew small bites) and then some cant......who knows why......being banded is not a diet....it will not tell you not to eat this or that.....that is up to us.......it does however tell us when we had enough.....i say eat good foods, in the band allotted amounts and enjoy food.....and as karen and others say, always do what your dr recommends for best results as best you can

Edited January 24, 2014 by ☠carolinagirl☠

[2muchfun 8,928]

I was advised that steak and bread would be difficult for me to eat and those warnings were mostly true. However, there are some types of bread that break up easily and pass through the stoma with very few problems. Like the low cal flat breads? Regular breads, mostly white flour, are difficult for me to eat.

Most steaks are very difficult to consume. But, if I eat tenderloin, I'm usually OK. Of course tenderloin steak is $15/lb but we can only eat 4-6 ozs anyway so one little steak is only $4-$6 and they're the most tender and best part of the beef.

So, I still eat a little flat bread and tenderloin steak now and then. Not every day mind you, but occasionally. Your doctor must have had some patients who got seriously stuck on these foods and is just being cautious.

I agree with B-52 that rules are guidelines. Maybe 6 months to a year you'll be one with your band and have an understanding of what your band will tolerate. Till then, obey your doctor.jmo

tmf

[Kitt3000 757]

No matter what I am eating or drinking, if it's too fast or one bite/ drink too many, the band sure lets me know! I didn't know how to be mindful prior to the band, regarding eating and drinking. Having the early months to replace old behaviors, was critical for my getting to the restricted green zone. Funny thing about it, I am more aware of how fast my husband eats . We both are working on slowing down, taking the time to enjoy and savor the food, the company. It's not a race. I love the mental pictures you all paint, thinking of a minute hour glass timer between bites, etc, these small suggestions have made changes for me and I thank you all!

[2muchfun 8,928]

No matter what I am eating or drinking, if it's too fast or one bite/ drink too many, the band sure lets me know! I didn't know how to be mindful prior to the band, regarding eating and drinking. Having the early months to replace old behaviors, was critical for my getting to the restricted green zone. Funny thing about it, I am more aware of how fast my husband eats . We both are working on slowing down, taking the time to enjoy and savor the food, the company. It's not a race. I love the mental pictures you all paint, thinking of a minute hour glass timer between bites, etc, these small suggestions have made changes for me and I thank you all!

I watch my 22 year old son eat and it's the size of a golfball, 5 quick chews and shovel the next golfball in. One burger takes 5 bites. One burger with bun for me is 25 bites and 20 minutes.

[Lady VS 1,147]

Yes, my surgeon and team advised me as well but I'm hard headed. I eat what I want when I want but in moderation. For the most part I do follow the rules otherwise I wouldn't be below goal and maintaining. I don't eat bread on a regular and when I do, I only eat half a piece or one slice if I'm in the mood for a sandwich which is always half of half. In regards to steak, I eat it only as fajitas. That's the only way my body will tolerate it. I'm sure I could probably eat a steak but I'm scared to try and I'm three years post op.

[cheryl2586 3,053]

I don't believe that any foods are off limits except the high fat, high carb, full of sugar foods. I have eaten prime rib with no issues. I can eat most foods but some days they just don't work for me. It's really a trial and error thing for all of us. I can eat rice I just choose not too. I have eaten Pasta but don't make a habit of it. I find that good cuts of meat are better but mostly they don't work for me so I eat other things like tofu, Beans, cottage cheese, greek yogurt and other high Protein things. It's really what you can tolerate not so much what is a no no. Just be cautious when trying new things.

[Christy Z 7]

B 52 , do you have these rules ??? Could you share them and how they have helped you to be successful? I didn't receive any rules, I am learning so much on this site, especially how I was not set up for success, everything has been trial and error. I was most successful when I was exercising 4 days a week. The band is a tool, I woüld love to know these rules to use my "tool" best. Thanks in advance!

[jamilyne 102668 1,207]

I've had steak, but I get the flat-iron steak and I've done ok .. The only bread that I eat is the low calorie bread (35 calories) - I buy it and put it in the freezer because it takes me 2 weeks to eat a loaf & I almost always toast it. The only thing I ever got stuck on was a piece of honeydew - I choked on it & thought I was going to die!

[SandyM 1,956]

I haven't tried steak, but I do eat whole grain bread and flat bread. I had a pancake once and did ok, but was very careful. I have had most of my stuck episodes on chicken and fish and will tell you they were all my fault. My dr gave guidelines not rules. The only rules they gave were eat slow, chew well, don't eat and drink together and don't use a straw. I've since discussed with them the eating and drinking together and been told that if it works for me, to not worry about it. I'm under the opinion that most of these are to get us in harmony with our bands until we can do what works for us. And, we all keep our band adjusted to fit our needs, some tighter, some looser, so we will all have things that work for us and things that don't.