Jump to content
×
Are you looking for the BariatricPal Store? Go now!

Obama...first african american...would you vote for him?????



Recommended Posts

I think the majority of Americans (white and black) DO place race as a deciding factor in choosing their candidate and choosing alot of other things in their lives! Sometimes subconsciously!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the majority of Americans (white and black) DO place race as a deciding factor in choosing their candidate and choosing alot of other things in their lives! Sometimes subconsciously!

And many times very overtly.

It is no accident that there are many code words that racists use. Many good people do not understand the objections to phrases like:

Family Values

Neighborhood Values

Law & Order

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think Obama is running too soon, and Colin Powell has left it to late. Obama doesn't have enough experience, and Powell lost his integrity to the Bush administration.

That said, I would vote for Obama. And I would have voted for Powell, if he had had the balls to run when he should have. Instead of kowtowing to the idiot cowboy we got saddled with.

I don't think Hillary will ever have a chance in hell. America might be ready for a black president, but I don't think they're ready for a female president. Vice-President, maybe. An Obama-Clinton ticket would be very interesting.

McCain, unfortunately, is too much under the control of the Bush administration. I don't know what they have on him, but time and again, he's put aside his personal beliefs to dance to their tune. And anyone with the GOP hand that far up his butt - I don't trust him to stand up to the neocons. Which is unfortunate. If he had shown more independence from the party line, and stayed true to his own ethics, rather than shucking them to do a song and dance for the GOP, I would have voted for him. But no more.

Howard Dean is bombastic, but I like him. I still like Al Gore. I think Kerry shot himself in the foot, as far as running again, by being such a spineless coward when he lost. He SAID he would fight it, if the election results looked fraudulent. America was ready to back him on that fight. And instead, he bowed out with a whimper.

Personally, I'm looking forward to Bush and Cheney being tried and executed for war crimes and Pelosi becoming President. Now that would be something!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the majority of Americans (white and black) DO place race as a deciding factor in choosing their candidate and choosing alot of other things in their lives! Sometimes subconsciously!

Exactly, I completely agree...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Barak needs more experience, but I think he'd make a great future ticket. I too think a Clinton/Obama ticket would be good.

I think that would be the greatest combination and then in 8 years he will be ready to lead. I really don't care what shade of color he is, I like him and think he is going to high places.

Mary

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did you notice the huge swing in the polls when the ads showing the white women (who was made to appear as if she might be nude) saying "call me Harold" were played on TV in the Tennessee Senate race?

I thought that ad was totally disgusting and should have immediately been removed and the sponsors censored. That kind of tripe doesn't belong in government.

Mary

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did you notice the huge swing in the polls when the ads showing the white women (who was made to appear as if she might be nude) saying "call me Harold" were played on TV in the Tennessee Senate race?
I thought that ad was totally disgusting and should have immediately been removed and the sponsors censored. That kind of tripe doesn't belong in government.

Mary

It was removed, but then the media showed it over and over again, pretending to be disgusted at its content and implication.

The USA will be the country that it pretends to be when an ad like that will have only the effect of dropping the person who put it on TV further down in the polls.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the Republicans can beat John Kerry and Al Gore, they can sure beat Hillary and Obama.

John McCain could never be elected to the presidency without conventional Republican backing and support. He will always have that master's hand up his butt. That's why voting Republican or Democratic is important, no matter how much people would like to believe to the contrary.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bjean.....it Was True Before But After The Last 8 Yrs Of Bush, I Truely Belive Obama/clinton Will Make It Over Rep.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ladydi: I sure hope you're right!! Obama has made such a strong stand right here in the beginning, don't be surprised if one of the conventional Demos who has paid his (or her) dues first, gets the nomination for VP. Of course if Hillary is nominated, she's going to have a strong hand in who is on the VP ticket. That's the conventional way on both sides.

Has anyone heard Hillary say anything revealing about how she perceives Obama, or any info on Obama's feelings about Hillary?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

.

I have gotten e-mail with the same smear (which has been debunked by CNN and WABC) and ending with: "If you do not want Hussein in the White house, pass this on."

I also got that email - the right wing loonies didn't waste much time trying to smear him, did they? Pity those liars can't be slapped in jail, let them do their "writings" there.

Snopes.com has bebunked this also. I returned it to the person that passed it to me with their web address. Reminds me of the Swift Boat Liars that smeared John Kerry. Sad to say a couple of their biggest contributors are in Texas.

Mary

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If we American voters didn't fall for all the dirt in dirty politics, they wouldn't get away with it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Trending Products

  • Trending Topics

  • Recent Status Updates

    • LeighaTR

      I am new here today... and only two weeks out from my sleeve surgery on the 23rd. I am amazed I have kept my calories down to 467 today so far... that leaves me almost 750 left for dinner and maybe a snack. This is going to be tough for two weeks... but I have to believe I can do it!
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
    • Doughgurl

      Hey everyone. I'm new here so I thought I should introduce myself. I am 53y/o and am scheduled for Gastric Bypass on June 25th, 2025. I'm located in San Antonio, Texas. I will be having my surgery in Tiajuana Mexico. I've wanted this for years, but I always had insurance where bariatric procedures were excluded. Finally I am able to afford to pay out of pocket.  I can't wait to get started, and I hope I'm prepared for the initial period of "hell". I know what I have signed up for, but I'm sure the good to come will out way the temporary period of discomfort and feelings of regret. I'd love to find people to talk to who have been through the same procedure or experience before. So I look forward to meeting you all. Hope you have a great week!
      · 2 replies
      1. Selina333

        I'm so happy for you! You are about to change your life. I was so glad to get the sleeve done in Dec. I didn't have feelings of regret overall. And I'm down almost 60 lbs. I do feel a little sad at restaurants. I can barely eat half a kid's meal. I get adults meals often because kid ones don't have the same offerings at times. Then I feel obligated to eat on that until it's gone and that can be days. So the restaurant thing isn't great for me. All the rest is fine by me! I love feeling full with very little. I do wish I could drink when eating. And will sip at the end. Just a strong habit to stop. But I'm working on it! You will do fine! Just keep focused on your desire to be different. Not better or worse. But different. I am happy both ways but my low back doesn't like me that heavy. So I listened (also my feet!). LOL! Update us on your journey! I'm not far from you. I'm in Houston. Good luck and I hope it all goes smoothly! Would love to see pics of the town you go to for this. I've never been there. Neat you will be traveling for this! Enjoy the journey. Take it one day at a time. Sometimes a few hours at a time. Follow all recommendations as best you can. 💗

      2. Doughgurl

        Thank you so much for your well wishes. I am hoping that everything goes easy for me as well. We don't eat out much as it is, so it wont be too bad in that department. Thankfully. Also, I hear you regarding your back and feet!! I'd like to add knees to the list. Killing me as we speak! I'm only 5' so the weight has to go. Too short to carry all this weight. Menopause really did a doosey on me. (😶lol) My daughter also lives in Houston. with her Husband and my 5 grand-littles. I grew up in Beaumont, so I know Houston well, I will be sure to keep in touch and update you on my journey. I may need some advice in the future, or just motivation. Thank You so much for reaching out, I was hoping to connect with someone in the community. I really appreciate it. 💜

    • Alisa_S

      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
      · 1 reply
      1. LeighaTR

        I hope your surgery on Wednesday goes well. You will be able to do all sorts of new things as you find your new normal after surgery. I don't know this from experience yet, but I am seeing a lot of positive things from people who have had it done. Best of luck!

    • Alisa_S

      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
      · 1 reply
      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

    • CaseyP1011

      Officially here for a long time, not just a good time💪
      · 0 replies
      1. This update has no replies.
  • Recent Topics

  • Hot Products

  • Sign Up For
    Our Newsletter

    Follow us for the latest news
    and special product offers!
  • Together, we have lost...
      lbs

    PatchAid Vitamin Patches

    ×