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buplee' date=' I'm sure you didn't intend to insult...but just to be clear, people who have complications do not necessarily do so because they did something "wrong". Nor because they chose the wrong doctor, etc. Nor because they cheaped out and didn't go to a center of excellence....sometimes it is due to surgeon error, good surgeons screw up too. Sometimes it's just how their body reacted to the surgery.

I went to a surgeon who had excellent reviews, had seen people on this forum, was quite experienced, not the cheapest (very expensive actually) and who runs a "Center of Excellence". All that great thought and it nearly killed me.[/quote']

No, I did not mean to insult anyone. That was not might intent at all. Yes, some issues are due to surgeon error. However, I got a little ticked by people who regretted not being able to over eat, or were blaming others for their short comings. As I said at the beginning of my post, that I am not a mean person. Please read the rest of the post to see the areas I was addressing.

As I mentioned everyone has the right of free speech, but don't feel people should take their issues out on others.

Sorry if anyone takes offense or feels insulted.

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No' date=' I did not mean to insult anyone. That was not might intent at all. Yes, some issues are due to surgeon error. However, I got a little ticked by people who regretted not being able to over eat, or were blaming others for their short comings. As I said at the beginning of my post, that I am not a mean person. Please read the rest of the post to see the areas I was addressing.

As I mentioned everyone has the right of free speech, but don't feel people should take their issues out on others.

Sorry if anyone takes offense or feels insulted.[/quote']

I just wanted to clear it up hun. There are actually people who think that you can only get a leak by doing something wrong. We leak victims get a little sensitive about the subject :) I have to say I also hate reading that people think the COE is the cats meow...given I went to one LOL

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Hang in there. I didn't have such bad problems but have struggled and back in ER twice. Today is my 3 week anniversary and it is getting better than the first week where I wrote about my regret. The weird thing is nothing taste right. Even Water.< /p>

tes is rightright..the density of water is really heavy.....i mix in g2 and it makes water tolerable...

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You hit the hammer on the nail! Not sure if that's how it goes lol! I totally agree with you. I'm having surgery May 16th. I'm so excited about the change. I weighed out the pros and the cons. The pros out weighed my social food gatherings! Having this surgery is just a boost. After the surgeon does their job, you have to do yours. It's not a quick fix. No offense to anyone. I like this site for its honesty. No one should bash any one for their true feelings but it's also good to hear the true feed back.

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My first instinct to the sleeve was staples really? Restriction alone didn't sell me. It was the reduction of the hunger hormone. But that didn't happen for me. I'm Really disappointed.

I don't think some people can hear what you're saying. It's obvious your surgery went wrong some how. Either your surgeon left your fundus or he left your stomach too big or something. Something is wrong. And if you could control your eating and not eat junk food, you wouldn't have needed the surgery.

I wish you the best. I hope you're able to get some help some kind of way. And there are a lot of complications with this surgery. I use to think it was 5% or less but I'm reading some studies that rank it as high as 20%. This surgery is not the answer for lots of people and we all need to keep that in mind when deciding whether to go forward or not.

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After the surgeon does their job, you have to do yours.

SOOOOOOO true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like x 1 million!

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It's obvious your surgery went wrong some how. Either your surgeon left your fundus or he left your stomach too big or something. Something is wrong. And if you could control your eating and not eat junk food, you wouldn't have needed the surgery.

Actually, I have heard around 50 percent of VSG patients still experience physical hunger. Ghrelin is also made in your brain and your pancreas and it also takes a while to dissipate once the fundus is removed. I am 11 weeks post-op and my physical hunger is just starting to dissipate (yay!). Still have some head hunger, but it's nice the physical hunger is diminishing. I don't think it will ever go away completely, though. I know others' experience is different--but I think it's important not to generalize. We all have our own journey and experiences and that doesn't mean that something went wrong with the surgery.

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Actually, I have heard around 50 percent of VSG patients still experience physical hunger. Ghrelin is also made in your brain and your pancreas and it also takes a while to dissipate once the fundus is removed. I am 11 weeks post-op and my physical hunger is just starting to dissipate (yay!). Still have some head hunger, but it's nice the physical hunger is diminishing. I don't think it will ever go away completely, though. I know others' experience is different--but I think it's important not to generalize. We all have our own journey and experiences and that doesn't mean that something went wrong with the surgery.

I wasn't generalizing. I said specifically something went wrong with his surgery - not anyone else's. I never thought a person would lose their hunger with this surgery. I researched that and I understand that you're still going to get hungry. However, the fundus secrets a large part of the ghrelin in your body and I said maybe his surgeon left too much of his. Specific. His surgeon.

I'm glad it worked out well for you though. It has to be a weight off your mind wondering if the surgery was going to work.

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I wasn't generalizing. I said specifically something went wrong with his surgery - not anyone else's. I never thought a person would lose their hunger with this surgery. I researched that and I understand that you're still going to get hungry. However, the fundus secrets a large part of the ghrelin in your body and I said maybe his surgeon left too much of his. Specific. His surgeon.

I'm glad it worked out well for you though. It has to be a weight off your mind wondering if the surgery was going to work.

What I was trying to communicate is that just because someone has true physical hunger, it doesn't mean that something went wrong with the surgery. It is within the realm of normal and is not as uncommon as is sometimes believed. However, we can still resist the hunger through discipline and by eating the right things, and we also still feel restriction. I've honestly never wondered if the surgery was going to work. I knew that I would lose weight more slowly than others due to my body's metabolic efficiency (related in part to some endocrine issues and probably yo yo dieting), but I'm happy with it so far and have been since immediately post-op.

Wishing you all the best with your surgery...I'm sure that it will go great!

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I just wanted to clear it up hun. There are actually people who think that you can only get a leak by doing something wrong. We leak victims get a little sensitive about the subject :) I have to say I also hate reading that people think the COE is the cats meow...given I went to one LOL

I'm going to briefly piggyback. My leak was a fluke. Not the surgeons error or mine, just an almost deadly random occurrence.

And to the OP, sorry if this is redundant. I had complications and for that, and the effect it has on me still, I regret this surgery. I don't regret the positive aspects. I know longer have dangerous drops in my blood sugar, my blood pressure is normal, and I've lost weight (albeit slowly.) I'm on the fence when it comes to the question "would I get it again?" I still vividly remember how scary the leak was. And of course the first place I lost weight was my butt. What tiny cushioning I had for my tailbone is gone so I sit on bone...or a super unsexy cushion that at least makes me sit a few inches taller in my car :) I vomit randomly from esophageal spasms, and I still am not even close to having my strength back to normal. My godson is a year old and I can barely hold him standing up. I researched my surgery years before I even pursued it with my insurance company. I was completely confident in my knowledge of physical and mental changes.

I have no intention of scaring you. I want to remind you that ANYONE can get a leak. I followed the rules to a T and still got one. It happens and it's awful.

But when it comes to people regretting this with no complications the numbers are growing. More people regret surgery now than when I joined this site. The surgery has also gained TONS of advertising. I would bet most people who regret their surgery and had no complications are those who didn't do enough research and/or saw this as a magic obesity cure. They see people who lost 100+ lbs and assume it was all the surgery. Not true. The sleeve helped but it was their dedication to a lifestyle change that made them lose so much and it didn't happen overnight. Or they've heard "I know so and so had it done and they look great!" This isn't cosmetic surgery and people think it is without researching. It's not a way to drop 30-40 lbs easily. It's a big commitment and more people are getting it without realizing that massive truth.

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And don't count on the ghrelin thing. My sleeve itself is textbook now and I still get hungry. Some of us just still get that way. Now that I'm post op though, my hunger shows itself as nausea and not the previous growling sensation.

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I'm only a little over a week out' date=' and I don't think I'll have any regrets. What I am struggling with, though, is to try to understand why I couldn't do it without the surgery? I'm pretty disappointed in myself....why couldn't I exercise? Or limit my portions? Or drive by a fast food joint and not go through the drive through?

I'm confident that after 6 months I'll be able to have a little of anything, so I'm not really mourning food or the rediculous huge portions I had before. But I'm just disappointed in myself for having to have chosen surgery.

Deborah

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I agree with you I'm on the end of my second week. I do have days where I dwell on the fact that I can't eat, but at the same time it upsets me more that I wasn't disciplined before. I sit here and think if only I would have just watched what I ate and ate normal portions. If only I stopped eating when I felt satisfied and not when I was stuffed. I'm hoping it gets better because this journey has truly been difficult for me. Good luck to you as well.

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I'm not quite six months out and can eat a little bit of anything with no problem. I will tell you I'm not as disappointed with myself as I was in the beginning but I HATE eating around people because the amount of food they ingest, the unhealthy choices, and the speed at which they shovel it in their mouths disgusts me and I'm sickened by the fact I used to do that. :/

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I agree with you I'm on the end of my second week. I do have days where I dwell on the fact that I can't eat' date=' but at the same time it upsets me more that I wasn't disciplined before. I sit here and think if only I would have just watched what I ate and ate normal portions. If only I stopped eating when I felt satisfied and not when I was stuffed. I'm hoping it gets better because this journey has truly been difficult for me. Good luck to you as well.[/quote']

I felt and do feel the same way but that feeling goes away when I am satisfied/full and it especially goes away when I step on the scale and see more progress in the past 3 months than I have had in the past 20 years. No regrets. Not a good way to live with regrets. Learn and move on.

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I'm not quite six months out and can eat a little bit of anything with no problem. I will tell you I'm not as disappointed with myself as I was in the beginning but I HATE eating around people because the amount of food they ingest' date=' the unhealthy choices, and the speed at which they shovel it in their mouths disgusts me and I'm sickened by the fact I used to do that. :/[/quote']

I beginning to feel your pain!

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