Bread...Why did I do it? :(

[No game 14,437]

* looks around..shakes head in disbelief and sadness turns around and walks out *

[lessofmeismore 1,405]

The question was why did she do this and Grace mentioned that a lot of times we need talk therapy to work along with our sleeves because sometimes we bury emotions by eating. It was an answer nothing more. This was taken way off course and made into drama.

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[lessofmeismore 1,405]

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[*susan* 1,709]

Honestly, if someone who really doesn't know me, has only seen me from a few posts on a message board, were to suggest I need therapy, I would be offended as well. Reason being, I think we all know what we are supposed to do when we get the sleeve. Unfortunately, they sleeved our tummies, not our brains. We didn't get to the point of needing weight loss surgery by having amazing willpower and the ability to just turn our heads and walk away from the things we know are bad for us. I could spend hours in therapy, but that isn't going to take away my cravings or turn me into a super human. I understand why I cheat, I don't need to pay someone to tell me why I eat. I eat because I genuinely enjoy the taste of crap food, I eat when I am depressed and I eat when I am happy. I know there are a million other ways I could deal with being depressed or happy, I know there are healthy choices that taste just as good. Nope, I don't need a therapist to tell me that. And yes, I worked in the mental health field for 13 years as well.

Sometimes, you just have to allow yourself to experience the emotions you are going to have. Sometimes, despite having the sleeve, you are going to eat something bad for you. The sleeve fixed my tummy, but all those old reasons I became fat are still there, and even after four years out, they still pop up. Sometimes, we just want to eat what we want to eat without feeling guilty. It's okay. We are human.

OP, did you get the sleeve to be normal, or to feel deprived for the rest of your life? I got mine to be normal. I had and continue to have no desire to be on a diet for the rest of my life. And, thanks to my sleeve, I don't have to be. What you have to learn is everything in moderation. A piece of bread is okay. But, it is important to remember that certain things, like bread and Pasta, swell up in your stomach after a bit. And, as you learned, that is really, really uncomfortable. For the newly sleeved especially, learning to eat again is a bit of a trial and error situation. You will learn as you go what your stomach can tolerate, what makes you miserable, etc. And you learned that four pieces of bread is going to result in a really, really miserable feeling. I doubt you will do that again. It is okay to enjoy the foods you love, so long as you do it in moderation and make healthy choices the majority of the time. It is all about learning balance. I am confident you learned a valuable lesson from this, and you will be successful with your sleeve.

Just one more thing, and you may already be doing this, I found that monitoring every bite of food on MyFitnessPal really helps me. And when I eat something I am not supposed, I make a note of what I was feeling that day, what was going on that led me to eat something I know I shouldn't have, and how it made me feel. That really helps me to put it down in words, and be able to look back on it as well. Sometimes I just ate something because I was out with friends, at a social event and I wanted to enjoy what everyone else was. And that is 100% okay because I know the majority of the time I do make good choices. It is called living, and you know what, I love living.

Much luck and success to you, my sleeve sister!

[NurseGrace 509]

For the record, I said she might consider it because things seemed to be a certain way, its a narrow but deep distinction.

This is the last thing I am saying on the matter.

[Jumperbean 26]

The site has really started to become less than helpful. When did fat people and ex fat people become so Judgemental? I'm out, don't think I'll be back because unlike some of the experts, and know it alls, and dummies that need the last word.......I have a life.

[deedeemuffin 346]

Honestly, if someone who really doesn't know me, has only seen me from a few posts on a message board, were to suggest I need therapy, I would be offended as well. Reason being, I think we all know what we are supposed to do when we get the sleeve. Unfortunately, they sleeved our tummies, not our brains. We didn't get to the point of needing weight loss surgery by having amazing willpower and the ability to just turn our heads and walk away from the things we know are bad for us. I could spend hours in therapy, but that isn't going to take away my cravings or turn me into a super human. I understand why I cheat, I don't need to pay someone to tell me why I eat. I eat because I genuinely enjoy the taste of crap food, I eat when I am depressed and I eat when I am happy. I know there are a million other ways I could deal with being depressed or happy, I know there are healthy choices that taste just as good. Nope, I don't need a therapist to tell me that. And yes, I worked in the mental health field for 13 years as well.

Sometimes, you just have to allow yourself to experience the emotions you are going to have. Sometimes, despite having the sleeve, you are going to eat something bad for you. The sleeve fixed my tummy, but all those old reasons I became fat are still there, and even after four years out, they still pop up. Sometimes, we just want to eat what we want to eat without feeling guilty. It's okay. We are human.

OP, did you get the sleeve to be normal, or to feel deprived for the rest of your life? I got mine to be normal. I had and continue to have no desire to be on a diet for the rest of my life. And, thanks to my sleeve, I don't have to be. What you have to learn is everything in moderation. A piece of bread is okay. But, it is important to remember that certain things, like bread and Pasta, swell up in your stomach after a bit. And, as you learned, that is really, really uncomfortable. For the newly sleeved especially, learning to eat again is a bit of a trial and error situation. You will learn as you go what your stomach can tolerate, what makes you miserable, etc. And you learned that four pieces of bread is going to result in a really, really miserable feeling. I doubt you will do that again. It is okay to enjoy the foods you love, so long as you do it in moderation and make healthy choices the majority of the time. It is all about learning balance. I am confident you learned a valuable lesson from this, and you will be successful with your sleeve.

Just one more thing, and you may already be doing this, I found that monitoring every bite of food on MyFitnessPal really helps me. And when I eat something I am not supposed, I make a note of what I was feeling that day, what was going on that led me to eat something I know I shouldn't have, and how it made me feel. That really helps me to put it down in words, and be able to look back on it as well. Sometimes I just ate something because I was out with friends, at a social event and I wanted to enjoy what everyone else was. And that is 100% okay because I know the majority of the time I do make good choices. It is called living, and you know what, I love living.

Much luck and success to you, my sleeve sister!

Thank you for your thoughtful & well stated post. I definitely got my sleeve to be normal. I want to get to a healthy weight & be more active. I know making mistakes are part of the process too. I know that I am on program the majority of the time. I certainly will not the same mistake with bread again. That's for sure. I do use My Fitness Pal to track my food. It's a great tool. I know that I will be successful. I am already on the right path & look forward to continuing to a healthy new me.!

[Takingcontrol 467]

Amen Susan & DeeDee!!

[mommyradd 115]

From all the threads I have read on this site, many people "mess up" from time to time. I have not had bread yet, and hope not to until I reach my goal. However; I don't think you should be too hard on yourself, just hard enough to not do it again. Pick yourself up, and continue to make the most of this tool. We can't give up on ourselves. Good luck

[Pelekania 156]

Some individuals do not know how to be tactful when trying to provide "constructive criticism".

Deedeemuffin I am glad to see that you stuck around. Vst really have some amazing people that are helpful and some that gives you that "tough love" without sounding so condescending... Proudgrammy comes to mind. So don't let one run it deter you from posting because sometime you just can't find what you are looking for.

Just always remember that everyone has an opinion and oftentimes what we desire to say does not come across that way when writing. Take what you can use and simply ignore those who live in the world of no mistakes since that person would be unable to relate.

On a lighter note, I will be purchasing the book and workbook: The Beck Diet Solution: Train Your Brain to Think Like a Thin Person by Judith Beck. Lol because The Lord knows that I still think like an obese person and just eating those small portion aaarrrggghhhh makes me mad! Lol no more barbeque with rice and Beans, potatoe salad, Mac n cheese, and Hawaiian rolls mmmm my mouth is salivating just think about my southern cooking. Lol

[deedeemuffin 346]

Some individuals do not know how to be tactful when trying to provide "constructive criticism".

Deedeemuffin I am glad to see that you stuck around. Vst really have some amazing people that are helpful and some that gives you that "tough love" without sounding so condescending... Proudgrammy and Laura comes to mind. So don't let one run it deter you from posting because sometime you just can't find what you are looking for.

Just always remember that everyone has an opinion and oftentimes what we desire to say does not come across that way when writing. Take what you can use and simply ignore those who live in the world of no mistakes since that person would be unable to relate.

On a lighter note, I will be purchasing the book and workbook: The Beck Diet Solution: Train Your Brain to Think Like a Thin Person by Judith Beck. Lol because The Lord knows that I still think like an obese person and just eating those small portion aaarrrggghhhh makes me mad! Lol no more barbeque with rice and Beans, potatoe salad, Mac n cheese, and Hawaiian rolls mmmm my mouth is salivating just think about my southern cooking. Lol

Thanks. I'm drooling reading your list of foods. lol. Trying to get things moving on a postive direction today with this thread. http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/70339-super-positive-sunday-love-your-sleeve-love-yourself/

[Geminidrive 389]

Some individuals do not know how to be tactful when trying to provide "constructive criticism".

Deedeemuffin I am glad to see that you stuck around. Vst really have some amazing people that are helpful and some that gives you that "tough love" without sounding so condescending... Proudgrammy and Laura comes to mind. So don't let one run it deter you from posting because sometime you just can't find what you are looking for.

Just always remember that everyone has an opinion and oftentimes what we desire to say does not come across that way when writing. Take what you can use and simply ignore those who live in the world of no mistakes since that person would be unable to relate.

On a lighter note, I will be purchasing the book and workbook: The Beck Diet Solution: Train Your Brain to Think Like a Thin Person by Judith Beck. Lol because The Lord knows that I still think like an obese person and just eating those small portion aaarrrggghhhh makes me mad! Lol no more barbeque with rice and Beans, potatoe salad, Mac n cheese, and Hawaiian rolls mmmm my mouth is salivating just think about my southern cooking. Lol

Ok, you know I'm salivating over here just thinking about those foods. You just had thinking about the Thanksgiving dinners with homemade rolls with the butter painted on them......lord I could go on. Lol. Ok, back to the point I was going to make, you are going to love that book, it has been very insightful and helpful.

[Pelekania 156]

Ok, you know I'm salivating over here just thinking about those foods. You just had thinking about the Thanksgiving dinners with homemade rolls with the butter painted on them......lord I could go on. Lol. Ok, back to the point I was going to make, you are going to love that book, it has been very insightful and helpful.

Now look what you have done... Homemade rolls...Thanksgiving dinner will no longer be the same! Lol just thinking of all that goodness... Going to take all day just to sample a quarter of the dishes.

I read on here where someone had mentioned the book.Knowledge is power and I want to be successful with maintaining my weight once I reach because I know it will come off.

Do you know of any other books that you would recommend?

[deecc26 19]

A little off topic but I just started using MFP and don't know how to track the food details except calories. Is there something I need to change in the settings?

[Pelekania 156]

A little off topic but I just started using MFP and don't know how to track the food details except calories. Is there something I need to change in the settings?

You should see MyDiary, click on that and go to add and you will see where to add your meals. i am looking on it from my phone, but it should say the same on the computer.