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I am having surgery aug. 28th with dr almanza at hospital jerusalem. it's not fancy, but I know people who have went to him and have good reviews, however, if I were doing it again and just getting started on choosing a surgeon I would go with dr otiz and OCC. The facilities are nicer, but the price is higher of course. I decided to go ahead with dr almanza but I would recommend occ...

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I went to Hospital Jerusalem in Dec 2010, the place is, well, adequate. It is a store front nestled in amongst a bunch of "big box" type retail stores. It's cramped but seems to be well run and clean. You spend te rest of the day post-op there and perhaps till the next morning and are shuttled to a recovery house, it too is, "adequate". It's a bit run down, small and not built very well. There was an armed robbery there some time last year I think, some patients were robbed at gun point. That is enough to make me hesitant to recommend the place.

As far as my surgery, it went well. Little pain a LOT of nausea but that's just me. I left a day earlier and had no real issues post-op except for kidney stones from dehydration as I was not drinking enough Water.

I've heard better reports form a few other places in Mexico and would advise looking in to them over Hospital Jerusalem.

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I went to Hospital Jerusalem in Dec 2010' date=' the place is, well, adequate. It is a store front nestled in amongst a bunch of "big box" type retail stores. It's cramped but seems to be well run and clean. You spend te rest of the day post-op there and perhaps till the next morning and are shuttled to a recovery house, it too is, "adequate". It's a bit run down, small and not built very well. There was an armed robbery there some time last year I thing, some patients were robbed at gun point. That is enough to make me hesitant to recommend the place.

As far as my surgery, it went well. Little pain a LOT of nausea but that's just me. I left a day earlier and had no real issues post-op except for kidney stones from dehydration as I was not drinking enough Water.

I've heard better reports form a few other places in Mexico and would advise looking in to them over Hospital Jerusalem.[/quote']

Thank you for sharing your story. I did read on a few other posts about the robbery. That's enough to make me have a panic attack in Mexico for sure! Lol

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I was doing some research on Jerusalem hospital through one of their websites and I found out and they do admit that they are in a "strip shopping mall" I asked that in case of an emergency where would they take me sinceTHEY ARE NOT A HOSPITAL and they said that:because there is a Mexican Red Cross Hospital they would take me there. Isn't that nice ??? BEWARE OF THIS PLACE !!

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I just had surgery at Jerusalem Hospital within the last 2 weeks. I can tell you plenty. I believe that Dr. Almanza is a gifted and competent surgeon, HOWEVER.... The post op care at Jerusalem reminded me much of a house of horrors. There were 8 of us done that day I was done. Almost all were moaning, crying or yelling out in pain. We suffered horribly. Nursing care the first ***ht consisted of two very young male nurses that spoke VERY little English. I wonder if they were even really trained nurses...? They had ZERO compassion for the patients suffering there and we found out that they were giving about 1/4 of the pain medication every 6 hours that we should have or would have had in the US. I have given birth ten times without pain meds ever and this surgery was HORRIFIC. I wasn't sure I was going to make it that first ***ht and I know several others including a grown man were in the same boat. The "nurses" were playing some kind of ball sport in the halls outside our doors and they did nothing to ease our minds or pain. I felt very alone and desperate. It was NOT a good experience at all. The next morning we were given 15 minutes notice to get dressed back in our clothes to go to either the hotel or recovery house. We were given our meds to take home, which included a very mild anti-inflammatory (not really pain meds) and Cipro for an antibiotic. We were not given the promised antiseptic spray for our incisions, or any gauze or tape for redressing them for our flight home. The recovery house turned out to be more for patients who whined and complained more. Those of us who were walking and doing as told were shipped off to pay for an unexpected hotel stay with our guest. Once at the hotel, we were given pain meds only by a driver picking us up (always late) and taking us over extremely bumpy roads for the 15 minute drive back to Jerusalem ONCE A DAY (obviously nothing near adequate for lap abdominal surgery). I got home safely thanks to my guest walking the streets of Tijuana to find me gauze, tape and antiseptic spray for my trip home feeling seriously a bit traumatized by the whole experience. Am I happy it's done and I am healing well? Absolutely! Do I wish I had gone somewhere else? ABSOLUTELY. Much needs to be improved before I would ever recommend Jerusalem to anyone.

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I just had surgery at Jerusalem Hospital within the last 2 weeks. I can tell you plenty. I believe that Dr. Almanza is a gifted and competent surgeon' date=' HOWEVER.... The post op care at Jerusalem reminded me much of a house of horrors. There were 8 of us done that day I was done. Almost all were moaning, crying or yelling out in pain. We suffered horribly. Nursing care the first ***ht consisted of two very young male nurses that spoke VERY little English. I wonder if they were even really trained nurses...? They had ZERO compassion for the patients suffering there and we found out that they were giving about 1/4 of the pain medication every 6 hours that we should have or would have had in the US. I have given birth ten times without pain meds ever and this surgery was HORRIFIC. I wasn't sure I was going to make it that first ***ht and I know several others including a grown man were in the same boat. The "nurses" were playing some kind of ball sport in the halls outside our doors and they did nothing to ease our minds or pain. I felt very alone and desperate. It was NOT a good experience at all. The next morning we were given 15 minutes notice to get dressed back in our clothes to go to either the hotel or recovery house. We were given our meds to take home, which included a very mild anti-inflammatory (not really pain meds) and Cipro for an antibiotic. We were not given the promised antiseptic spray for our incisions, or any gauze or tape for redressing them for our flight home. The recovery house turned out to be more for patients who whined and complained more. Those of us who were walking and doing as told were shipped off to pay for an unexpected hotel stay with our guest. Once at the hotel, we were given pain meds only by a driver picking us up (always late) and taking us over extremely bumpy roads for the 15 minute drive back to Jerusalem ONCE A DAY (obviously nothing near adequate for lap abdominal surgery). I got home safely thanks to my guest walking the streets of Tijuana to find me gauze, tape and antiseptic spray for my trip home feeling seriously a bit traumatized by the whole experience. Am I happy it's done and I am healing well? Absolutely! Do I wish I had gone somewhere else? ABSOLUTELY. Much needs to be improved before I would ever recommend Jerusalem to anyone.[/quote']

Good Lord Hospitals in Louisiana must be the devil cause I thought that I had very good service at Jerusalem Hospital. Sure the ***ht nurses were not compationate. They couldnt even speak english but they understood a good bit. U should have learned a bit of spanish before hand. Jesser u should be fine cause your practically mexican cause your from Texas. Any who. I had a guest so I knew that I was going to need a hotel room at Ticuan so I booked the suite way before hand. I was given Cipro, pain reliever, antiseptic spray, 8 gauze pads, some gloves and something else but I cant remember at this moment. All in all it was better service than 3 of my local hospitals in the states. Maybe I need to move to where you live. Seems great

I am not knocking you... Just saying you may be accustomed to better health care than alot of us others.

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I just had surgery at Jerusalem Hospital within the last 2 weeks. I can tell you plenty. I believe that Dr. Almanza is a gifted and competent surgeon' date=' HOWEVER.... The post op care at Jerusalem reminded me much of a house of horrors. There were 8 of us done that day I was done. Almost all were moaning, crying or yelling out in pain. We suffered horribly. Nursing care the first ***ht consisted of two very young male nurses that spoke VERY little English. I wonder if they were even really trained nurses...? They had ZERO compassion for the patients suffering there and we found out that they were giving about 1/4 of the pain medication every 6 hours that we should have or would have had in the US. I have given birth ten times without pain meds ever and this surgery was HORRIFIC. I wasn't sure I was going to make it that first ***ht and I know several others including a grown man were in the same boat. The "nurses" were playing some kind of ball sport in the halls outside our doors and they did nothing to ease our minds or pain. I felt very alone and desperate. It was NOT a good experience at all. The next morning we were given 15 minutes notice to get dressed back in our clothes to go to either the hotel or recovery house. We were given our meds to take home, which included a very mild anti-inflammatory (not really pain meds) and Cipro for an antibiotic. We were not given the promised antiseptic spray for our incisions, or any gauze or tape for redressing them for our flight home. The recovery house turned out to be more for patients who whined and complained more. Those of us who were walking and doing as told were shipped off to pay for an unexpected hotel stay with our guest. Once at the hotel, we were given pain meds only by a driver picking us up (always late) and taking us over extremely bumpy roads for the 15 minute drive back to Jerusalem ONCE A DAY (obviously nothing near adequate for lap abdominal surgery). I got home safely thanks to my guest walking the streets of Tijuana to find me gauze, tape and antiseptic spray for my trip home feeling seriously a bit traumatized by the whole experience. Am I happy it's done and I am healing well? Absolutely! Do I wish I had gone somewhere else? ABSOLUTELY. Much needs to be improved before I would ever recommend Jerusalem to anyone.[/quote']

I'm so sorry that you had such a terrible experience. Thank you for telling me about this... I did at first consider going to Jerusalem Hospital, but I no longer want to go there. I'm not talking bad about the place at all because of course I know nothing about it, but hearing stories like yours definitely makes me think this is not the place for me! I checked out their website and it shows nothing of being in a strip mall. I think that's a little misleading because I was under the impression that it was a hospital, not a clinic. I would have been in complete shock if I would have showed up the day of my surgery and seen that it was in a strip mall :/ I'd like to be in a place that if god forbid something was to go wrong, I'd get the best care possible.

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I just had surgery at Jerusalem Hospital within the last 2 weeks. I can tell you plenty. I believe that Dr. Almanza is a gifted and competent surgeon' date=' HOWEVER.... The post op care at Jerusalem reminded me much of a house of horrors. There were 8 of us done that day I was done. Almost all were moaning, crying or yelling out in pain. We suffered horribly. Nursing care the first ***ht consisted of two very young male nurses that spoke VERY little English. I wonder if they were even really trained nurses...? They had ZERO compassion for the patients suffering there and we found out that they were giving about 1/4 of the pain medication every 6 hours that we should have or would have had in the US. I have given birth ten times without pain meds ever and this surgery was HORRIFIC. I wasn't sure I was going to make it that first ***ht and I know several others including a grown man were in the same boat. The "nurses" were playing some kind of ball sport in the halls outside our doors and they did nothing to ease our minds or pain. I felt very alone and desperate. It was NOT a good experience at all. The next morning we were given 15 minutes notice to get dressed back in our clothes to go to either the hotel or recovery house. We were given our meds to take home, which included a very mild anti-inflammatory (not really pain meds) and Cipro for an antibiotic. We were not given the promised antiseptic spray for our incisions, or any gauze or tape for redressing them for our flight home. The recovery house turned out to be more for patients who whined and complained more. Those of us who were walking and doing as told were shipped off to pay for an unexpected hotel stay with our guest. Once at the hotel, we were given pain meds only by a driver picking us up (always late) and taking us over extremely bumpy roads for the 15 minute drive back to Jerusalem ONCE A DAY (obviously nothing near adequate for lap abdominal surgery). I got home safely thanks to my guest walking the streets of Tijuana to find me gauze, tape and antiseptic spray for my trip home feeling seriously a bit traumatized by the whole experience. Am I happy it's done and I am healing well? Absolutely! Do I wish I had gone somewhere else? ABSOLUTELY. Much needs to be improved before I would ever recommend Jerusalem to anyone.[/quote']

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My daughter and I went to OCC in 2004. It was wonderful!! We LOVE Dr. Ortiz....We went to Dr. Almanza June 2012. We really like him too....and our surgery was really good. Yes there was post op discomfort but your going to have that no matter. The place was fine. Your not going to live there... just a few days and then your home. We have both had great success with our sleeve. I think you will receive great care and results with either one of these doctors. We did !!!! NOW... If money is not a problem for you.... go to OCC....It is nicer... but if it is an issue... you will do fine with Dr Almanza....

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Thank you! :) I am driving myself crazy trying to figure out which doctor to go with. I've been researching all of them. I don't know if I should pay less and go with someone like Dr. Garcia or Kelly or pay more and go with Ortiz or Aceves. Either way, it's going to take me a while to save up the money so I have time to figure it all out... I hope! Haha.

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Thank you! :) I am driving myself crazy trying to figure out which doctor to go with. I've been researching all of them. I don't know if I should pay less and go with someone like Dr. Garcia or Kelly or pay more and go with Ortiz or Aceves. Either way' date=' it's going to take me a while to save up the money so I have time to figure it all out... I hope! Haha.[/quote']

Dr. Garcia did my sleeve July 2, 2012. I had a very pleasant experience at the Doctor Mi hospital. Dr. Garcia and all of the staff were wonderful. I spent 2 nites at the hospital and then back to the Marriott for 2 nites. I felt they were very thorough and the nurses were very attentive and stayed on top of your pain meds. Again, very pleased and doing great at 5 weeks post op.

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Be very careful with Jerusalem. You get what you pay for. I got sleeved there. I was okay. Thank God. But then again I am hispanic and kept bugging tuem so they treated me better than others. What is most disturbing is they drug you up with kpins while you're recovering. I was a nursing mother and they gave that crap! Pay the extra cash and go to a better place. My hubby is in the hospital with a leak now in Houston and there are 3 other patients from Mexico surgeries here with complications. Not sure who their doctors were.

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