The good thing about being a slow loser

[coops 1,790]

Yea Susanne... got all that but without the actual dumping...lol... thankfully cos I was in work surrounded by teenagers!

The rest of the day hasn't been much better food wise... way too many carbs today and I just feel a little 'blugh'. I am sure tomorrow will be better though!

[chilo1 62]

It probably was a kind of dumping Coops it happened to me once after having something sweet as well. FAst heartbeat, sweat, and very nauseaous. I haven't lost any weight for a month by the way

[coops 1,790]

It probably was a kind of dumping Coops it happened to me once after having something sweet as well. FAst heartbeat, sweat, and very nauseaous. I haven't lost any weight for a month by the way

Chilo.... a month ... oh man that is crappy!!!

Have you spoke to your NUT?

How is the exercise going? Could you be losing inches instead... how do those size 12s feel now?

I am dreading my offical weigh day tomorrow... don't think I have lost this week!!!

[feedyoureye 3,087]

Those damned numbers!

[sleevesearch 14]

I am dreading my offical weigh day tomorrow... don't think I have lost this week!!!

I feel the same coops, today was my weigh in day, and I stayed the same this week. My exercise routine halted due to a sinus infection, so I'm hoping thats all it is.

But still my loss for the past month is still only 3.3 lbs. <<<very slow loser here!

At least it's not a gain

[chilo1 62]

Chilo.... a month ... oh man that is crappy!!!

Have you spoke to your NUT?

How is the exercise going? Could you be losing inches instead... how do those size 12s feel now?

I am dreading my offical weigh day tomorrow... don't think I have lost this week!!!

Size 12 still tight, working out but need to cut the carbs probably, my heallthy balanced diet theory doesn't seem to work anymore

[coops 1,790]

OH just as I expected... no weight loss on my offical weigh day... and I have measured and there is no difference there either...

I have upped the exercise from 2x per week before xmas to 3-4x a week; this includes cardio such as 40 - 50 mins on treadmill, 20-30 mins on the rower; 10-20 mins on exercise bike; floor work sits ups legs raises etc, free hand weights and some boxing training... mitt work with the pads.

I also mix in a little swimming, zumba and walking!

I would love to know where I am goinmg wrong here... since Oct 6th I have only lost 10lb! This is starting to get me down and needless to say soul destroying. I didn't 'pig' out over christmas and I don't treat myself on a regular basis... my diet is good 95% and the other 5% is being human!!! I am not sure I can work out more per week as I am starting to feel tired a lot and this time of year is demanding ad regards my job!

I gotta be honest girls, I am starting to sound like a broken record and I am getting on my own nerves! I just want this soooooo much.

I read on another thread about cals in v cals out and Chilo posted a link to work out BMR and cals needed to maintain...

I have worked out to maintain I need 2167cals - well, without a shadow of a doubt, there is no WAY I am eating that much... therefore for me to lose weight I should be eating about 1167 a day... which is more like it. Off the top of my head I would say I am eating about 1000 - 1200... BUT I am going to track for a week and see where I am going wrong... after that week ig there is no change or nothing obvious I will ring my surgeon for some advise!!

Sorry for the rant! x

[Susanne 32]

I think you should really check with your doc or nutritionist. I trust your post so I would really have a pro look over it. I am so sorry :-(

[LilMissDiva Irene 3,281]

Are you getting at least 15g Protein no earlier than 30 mins before or no later than 30 mins after your workouts? I think that is pretty important as I see you are doing a pretty good session when you do. Also, how much Water are you drinking during your workout? Staying hydrated and making sure you are breathing properly during your workout helps too.

I also believe in eating a well balanced meal - but - you can still be eating too many carbs. I do like the more balanced approach but I never eat more than one type carb per meal and I'm only talking a few bites at that. You could have the kind of metabolism that you have to eat protein along with your carb to kind of "squash out the glucose effect" of the carbohydrate. Most of what I fill up on is protein - and of course I also try to eat as lean cuts of meat as I possibly can.

Then again, as a slow loser - sometimes we really do just go through weeks where we don't lose. I went through that for 3 straight weeks!! I did tweak a few things, like cutting out the grazing, which honestly I didn't even realize I was doing - and bumping up my workouts. I think I was also doing TOO MUCH... yes this is possible. You have an optimal heart rate zone for fat burning, which I knew this but I wanted to do my own thing - hoping it would make me lose faster. Guess what, it didn't - it stalled me out.

I've so far only lost a half pound since I've lost the 5 so I'm not even sure I'll have a great week this week. However I feel like, as long as I'm losing I'll be happy. If I have one slow week amongst a few ok weeks and one good week mixed in here an there I won't need to change anything. It's usually when I get to 3 weeks in a row with a no loss or something very minute that I start to go back and recalculate where I can make some adjustments. I found myself in that situation a few weeks ago - and so far so good.

Also, I really don't give any of those BMR's calculations credence - for those are for "normal" folks. I'm not normal - I blew my metabolism and slowed it down considerably by starvation diets going way back to my early teens. I think if I really wanted to know how many calories I'm burning while just sitting around, I'd need to have it tested.

One last thing, and maybe not many folks really even think about this - how are you sleeping at night? This is a really big deal, your body needs rest and to recharge the batteries. You need at least 6-8 hours of sleep, preferrably more toward the 8 hours side. I do notice that when I'm not sleeping enough my weight loss suffers. When I start making sure I'm getting enough I can lose pretty good.

Good luck ladies!!! This is not going to be easy. Sometimes things can work for us great for awhile then all of a sudden not. The important thing is to keep on moving, and shaking things up until a new plan starts working for you!!! (((hugs)))

[coops 1,790]

I think you should really check with your doc or nutritionist. I trust your post so I would really have a pro look over it. I am so sorry :-(

thanks Suzanne ... means a lot to me... this is not BS... if I was cheating or making bad food choices A LOT I would not be making this sort of noise... I would simply own up and get on with it... but like I said, I am doing as I should but without the rewards of that movement on the scale... I think a phone call would be a good idea!

[coops 1,790]

Are you getting at least 15g Protein no earlier than 30 mins before or no later than 30 mins after your workouts? I think that is pretty important as I see you are doing a pretty good session when you do. Also, how much Water are you drinking during your workout? Staying hydrated and making sure you are breathing properly during your workout helps too.

I also believe in eating a well balanced meal - but - you can still be eating too many carbs. I do like the more balanced approach but I never eat more than one type carb per meal and I'm only talking a few bites at that. You could have the kind of metabolism that you have to eat protein along with your carb to kind of "squash out the glucose effect" of the carbohydrate. Most of what I fill up on is protein - and of course I also try to eat as lean cuts of meat as I possibly can.

Then again, as a slow loser - sometimes we really do just go through weeks where we don't lose. I went through that for 3 straight weeks!! I did tweak a few things, like cutting out the grazing, which honestly I didn't even realize I was doing - and bumping up my workouts. I think I was also doing TOO MUCH... yes this is possible. You have an optimal heart rate zone for fat burning, which I knew this but I wanted to do my own thing - hoping it would make me lose faster. Guess what, it didn't - it stalled me out.

I've so far only lost a half pound since I've lost the 5 so I'm not even sure I'll have a great week this week. However I feel like, as long as I'm losing I'll be happy. If I have one slow week amongst a few ok weeks and one good week mixed in here an there I won't need to change anything. It's usually when I get to 3 weeks in a row with a no loss or something very minute that I start to go back and recalculate where I can make some adjustments. I found myself in that situation a few weeks ago - and so far so good.

Also, I really don't give any of those BMR's calculations credence - for those are for "normal" folks. I'm not normal - I blew my metabolism and slowed it down considerably by starvation diets going way back to my early teens. I think if I really wanted to know how many calories I'm burning while just sitting around, I'd need to have it tested.

One last thing, and maybe not many folks really even think about this - how are you sleeping at night? This is a really big deal, your body needs rest and to recharge the batteries. You need at least 6-8 hours of sleep, preferrably more toward the 8 hours side. I do notice that when I'm not sleeping enough my weight loss suffers. When I start making sure I'm getting enough I can lose pretty good.

Good luck ladies!!! This is not going to be easy. Sometimes things can work for us great for awhile then all of a sudden not. The important thing is to keep on moving, and shaking things up until a new plan starts working for you!!! (((hugs)))

Diva,

Fair play, you make a lot of sense... I guess that I just have to keep on going and hope my body responds... I am alternating between being chuffed that I have lost 50lb, a world record for me, and being frustrated and annoyed that I am not losing more!

I do eat my protein first ... and the carbs i do eat are good carbs...

I dunno what is going on but at least I haven't gained eh?

[LilMissDiva Irene 3,281]

Diva,

Fair play, you make a lot of sense... I guess that I just have to keep on going and hope my body responds... I am alternating between being chuffed that I have lost 50lb, a world record for me, and being frustrated and annoyed that I am not losing more!

I do eat my Protein first ... and the carbs i do eat are good carbs...

I dunno what is going on but at least I haven't gained eh?

I hear you! I think maybe a good chat with your Nut would help a lot like you said. You'll get it and we'll all be here jumping for joy with you!!

[Eureka-C 20]

Coops,, have you considered a medical issue or medications?

Why Aren't You Losing weight?

By Carol Sorgen

WebMD Weight Loss Clinic - Feature

Reviewed By Charlotte E. Grayson, MD

You're following a weight-loss eating plan. You're exercising almost every day. You're proud of the new healthy habits you've learned. Yet week after week, the scale barely seems to budge. What gives?

Chances are your food portion sizes have crept up (time to get out the scales and measuring cups again). Or your workouts may not be quite as intense as you think (start checking that heart rate).

But if you know you've followed your reducing plan religiously, there's another possibility: A medical condition -- or medication -- may be to blame.

"If you haven't been able to lose weight and you can't understand why, you need to determine whether there's a medical condition underlying your weight problem," says Peter LePort, MD, director of the Smart Dimensions Bariatric Program at Orange Coast Memorial Medical Center in California. "You need to cure that problem first before you can address the weight issue."

Medical Reasons for Weight Gain

Several conditions can cause weight gain or hinder weight loss, says Rebecca Kurth, MD, director of PrimeCare at Columbia-Presbyterian Eastside and associate professor of clinical medicine at Columbia University.

Among them, Kurth says, are:

Chronic stress. When you live with anxiety, stress, or grief, your body can produce chemical substances -- like the hormone cortisol -- that make your body more likely to store fat, especially around the waist. That's the type of weight gain that really increases your risk of serious health problems. (Extra weight around the hips and thighs poses fewer health risks.)

Cushing's syndrome. This happens when the adrenal glands (located on top of each kidney) produce too much cortisol, which leads to a buildup of fat in the face, upper back, and abdomen.

Hypothyroidism. If your thyroid is underactive, your body may not produce enough thyroid hormone to help burn stored fat. As a result, your metabolism is slower and you will store more fat than you burn -- especially if you're not physically active.

Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). This disease, the result of a hormonal imbalance, afflicts more than 5 million women in the US. Common symptoms are irregular menstrual bleeding, acne, excessive facial hair, thinning hair, difficulty getting pregnant, and weight gain that is not caused by excessive eating.

Syndrome X. Also called insulin resistance or hyperinsulinemia (high insulin levels), syndrome X goes hand-in-hand with weight gain. Syndrome X is a cluster of health conditions thought to be rooted in insulin resistance. When your body is resistant to the hormone insulin, other hormones that help control your metabolism don't work as well.

Depression. Many people who are depressed turn to eating to ease their emotional distress.

Hormonal changes in women. Some women may gain weight at times in their lives when there is a shift in their hormones -- at puberty, during pregnancy, and at menopause.

Two other considerations: people tend to gain weight with age for unknown reasons, and though it's not a medical condition, drinking alcohol in moderate to excessive amounts can sabotage your efforts to lose weight. Alcohol (including beer and wine) is a refined carbohydrate, similar to sugar, candy, and white flour. Besides adding calories, alcohol may raise blood sugar and insulin levels, which can contribute to weight gain.

A Prescription for Weight Gain?

It's not only medical conditions that can add pounds. Some medications can also cause you to gain weight, or keep you from losing it, says Ken Fujioka, MD, medical director of the Scripps Clinic Nutrition and Metabolism Research Center in San Diego.< /p>

"It's not only medical conditions that can add pounds. Some medications can also cause you to gain weight."

This was from a quick search.

[FitatFifty 11]

Glad I found this post!! I too am a slow loser too and felt kind of alone. I recently learned, however, that I have a metabolic disorder related to hormone imbalance that has slowed my metabolism way down. I am working with a sports medicine doctor to correct the hormone imbalance. After learning this, it became very clear that without the sleeve I would never have lost a significant amount of weight. I'll post the details tomorrow-it's pretty interesting stuff!

[coops 1,790]

Coops,, have you considered a medical issue or medications?

Why Aren't You Losing weight?

By Carol Sorgen

WebMD Weight Loss Clinic - Feature

Reviewed By Charlotte E. Grayson, MD

You're following a weight-loss eating plan. You're exercising almost every day. You're proud of the new healthy habits you've learned. Yet week after week, the scale barely seems to budge. What gives?

Chances are your food portion sizes have crept up (time to get out the scales and measuring cups again). Or your workouts may not be quite as intense as you think (start checking that heart rate).

But if you know you've followed your reducing plan religiously, there's another possibility: A medical condition -- or medication -- may be to blame.

"If you haven't been able to lose weight and you can't understand why, you need to determine whether there's a medical condition underlying your weight problem," says Peter LePort, MD, director of the Smart Dimensions Bariatric Program at Orange Coast Memorial Medical Center in California. "You need to cure that problem first before you can address the weight issue."

Medical Reasons for Weight Gain

Several conditions can cause weight gain or hinder weight loss, says Rebecca Kurth, MD, director of PrimeCare at Columbia-Presbyterian Eastside and associate professor of clinical medicine at Columbia University.

Among them, Kurth says, are:

Chronic stress. When you live with anxiety, stress, or grief, your body can produce chemical substances -- like the hormone cortisol -- that make your body more likely to store fat, especially around the waist. That's the type of weight gain that really increases your risk of serious health problems. (Extra weight around the hips and thighs poses fewer health risks.)

Cushing's syndrome. This happens when the adrenal glands (located on top of each kidney) produce too much cortisol, which leads to a buildup of fat in the face, upper back, and abdomen.

Hypothyroidism. If your thyroid is underactive, your body may not produce enough thyroid hormone to help burn stored fat. As a result, your metabolism is slower and you will store more fat than you burn -- especially if you're not physically active.

Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). This disease, the result of a hormonal imbalance, afflicts more than 5 million women in the US. Common symptoms are irregular menstrual bleeding, acne, excessive facial hair, thinning hair, difficulty getting pregnant, and weight gain that is not caused by excessive eating.

Syndrome X. Also called insulin resistance or hyperinsulinemia (high insulin levels), syndrome X goes hand-in-hand with weight gain. Syndrome X is a cluster of health conditions thought to be rooted in insulin resistance. When your body is resistant to the hormone insulin, other hormones that help control your metabolism don't work as well.

Depression. Many people who are depressed turn to eating to ease their emotional distress.

Hormonal changes in women. Some women may gain weight at times in their lives when there is a shift in their hormones -- at puberty, during pregnancy, and at menopause.

Two other considerations: people tend to gain weight with age for unknown reasons, and though it's not a medical condition, drinking alcohol in moderate to excessive amounts can sabotage your efforts to lose weight. Alcohol (including beer and wine) is a refined carbohydrate, similar to sugar, candy, and white flour. Besides adding calories, alcohol may raise blood sugar and insulin levels, which can contribute to weight gain.

A Prescription for Weight Gain?

It's not only medical conditions that can add pounds. Some medications can also cause you to gain weight, or keep you from losing it, says Ken Fujioka, MD, medical director of the Scripps Clinic Nutrition and Metabolism Research Center in San Diego.< /p>

"It's not only medical conditions that can add pounds. Some medications can also cause you to gain weight."

This was from a quick search.

Thank you for this.., I had already been thinking along these lines, but I didn't want to sound like I was making excuses... I can't stress enough how I am ticking all the boxes and I do feel really good physically... I have thought along the lines of insulin resistant... ??

I had a test done for cushings a few years ago and that was all clear. I mentioned PCOS to my dr, went for the tests and the consultant said it wasn't going to be an issue for me cos I didn't want anymore children... so I am still non the wiser to whether that is an issue for me or not.. I do know that my monthlys are out of whack!

I'll speak with my surgeon or his nurse and see what they say...

Thanks again for all your support,.. I think I might have gone daft without this place... xxxx