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But, Leatha, you know that folks aren't attacking people because they are elderly or pregnant or military, etc. And you must know that there are folks who are attacking other people because they like to beat up on "fags!" This attempt to add these other groups to this protected "class" was an attempt to dilute the power of this proposal and thus is deeply offensive.

Yes, boys, the Green grrl is very much inclined to agree. My findings come about after years of working in a man's world and after doing a lot of reading on the subject. Of course, I kinda did have to park a little piece of my ego at the door.:phanvan (And by the way, synical chic sounds like a practical grrl. ) As for the Lear 45, my mate has been sent down to Witchita to work on this aircraft in the past and he is now once again working on the Lear 45 wing builds. Now it seems that Bombardier is going to be sending some of their aircraft work to Mexico City. An hour or so ago he phoned me up to ask me if I wanted to spend a month or even the whole summer in Mexico City. It seems they want to send him down there in order to teach the local folks how to build aircraft. The per diem is pretty good. I dunno..........???

I am inclined to disagree with you that those women that you mention don't care that they are overweight. I suspect that they figure that because there isn't a lot that they can do about it they may as well try to accept themselves as they are. This would mean, among other things, that they don't talk to others about their weight issues and that they may have come to understand that the yo-yo-ing effect of dieting and then gaining back the weight which they have lost is not only not working but is also destructive emotionally and physically. The truth is that no one is happy being fat.

Yep, I agree with the above posters. Ohio, you should not allow yourself to be thrown off this bucking bronco just because of a PM. This is our forum.

Omigawd, grrl, that white T-shirt is exactly what I am looking for. It seems that they don't import such items north of the border, eh.:cry blehhhh......... Unfortunately, Green cannot wear brown nor can she wear anything which wraps. :cry This is because I am relatively tubular in shape. I have a thick waist and comparatively narrow hips and though I have broad shoulders I am not especially chesty. An hour-glass I am not! and this is why I look best in boxy jackets and tops. I am kinda of the fatso version of Audrey Hepburn body-wise. Face-wise I have the ultra pale skin of a redhead and so don't look good in anything other than the winter colours. Summer is not my prettiest time of the year.:cry Thanks so much for thinking of me in this time of shopping sorrow. :think It is much appreciated, you know.

I believe that there at this moment two different discussions going on: one is to do with anti-smoking laws and the other is to do with the question of the smoker's addiction. Where I live has strict laws, as I have mentioned earlier in this thread, concerning smoke-free work places. As things presently stand no one is allowed to smoke inside a work place. We smokers are now accustomed to hitting the streets and the open air in order to top up our nicotine levels and this can be tough in the Canadian climate. The issue of the physical and psychological addiction to cigarettes is altogether another thing. Nicotine is a powerfully addictive substance, for some more than others, for this will depend on your particular metabolism. I once read that nicotine can be more addictive than heroin but I am unable to comment on the truth of this statement. What I can tell you is that nicotine is a government sanctioned drug. It is not illegal although it is becoming increasingly expensive to obtain. I can also tell you that we smokers are fully aware that smoking is bad for us. We know this not only academically but because we can feel some of the negative effects of this activity on an intimate level. Nevertheless, we keep on doing it until we can't stand to do it any longer. This is because smoking nicotine, just like smoking crack, is not only highly addictive, it is also pleasant. As for my own personal level of addiction, I am kinda stuck. I am on Zyban under its other name, Wellbutrin. It is one of the antidepressants which I am on. Unfortunately it ain't doing too much with respect to trimming back my nicotine habit, dammit!

All I want is the Audrey Hepburn T-shirt in size 3X! Is that so much to ask???:tired I have just come home after trying and failing once again! to find the perfect T-shirt in a size 3X. I want one with 3-quarter length sleeves, pure cotton, boat neckline, in black, white, deep grey, or a deep turquoise or periwinkel blue. What I have found are scoop necks, V-necks, long sleeves, short sleeves, no sleeves, an array of pastels, beiges, browns, synthetic blends, stuff with beads, with embroidery, and with appliques. I did discover that we now have a Land's End outlet up here in Toronto. They sell the kind of T-shirt that I am looking for but only in girlish sizes, dammit!:cry Then I started looking around me at other big women and I realised that an awful lot of them who were, well, kind of in my age group were wearing those scoop and V-neck T-shirts and they were showing some cleavage or tit-crack and I was kinda reminded of plumber's butt and not in a good way at that.:rolleyes I am fond of my country but it can it can be frustrating to shop up here at times and I live in the heart of Canada's largest city. I so regret not learning how to sew when I was young.:phanvan Knowledge really is power!

This is very true. I come from a family of depressives and I have struggled with this disease all my life. My life is a very pleasant and an interesting one but still I must take a number of medications and see a therapist in order to remain on an even keel. It is the luck of the genetic deck in my case.

While I am very pleased for you that you did manage to quit smoking, please don't preach to me about my smoking habit. It only makes me ornery. I certainly needed the assistance of the band in order to lose weight and it would seem that I am going to need some outside assistance in order to quit this habit, too! Seems that I am the addictive type.:cry Now, as it happens I do make a point of not smoking around non-smokers and I expect that they make a point of not preaching around me! :tired It's only polite.

My husband refuses the lapdances or so he tells me.:rolleyes He tells them that he is married and then the girls suggest that he bring me in. He does like watching them, though, and drinking beer. He also enjoys striking up a conversation with one of the other patrons while he is there. It seems that going to the Temple is very much about male bonding. One day he took his dad and another old geezer over to our local strip club for lunch and nudity.:faint: Before I took an early retirement package I worked for awhile on Bombardier's Global jet, their answer to the Gulfstream V, and the crew I worked with were mostly single guys. They used to regularly invite me to go to a strip club with them at the end of the Friday night shift. I never did go. I am not hardwired to enjoy looking at naked women.:tired

You really look terrific, Yoda, but your skin could do with some moisturizer. :faint: What a change between the before and after photos! And you, Mr Yoda, will soon be joining Mrs Yoda with your own thin new look. Men lose weight so much faster than we do! Nice that you got the Demerol! I used my left-overs for going to the dentist; I have very sensitive teeth. Boy, did I ever enjoy going to the dentist!:rolleyes

I do feel for ya but if there was a family section and an adults only section in the aircraft this could be a good thing for those of us who are old and cranky and travelling child-free.

Well if only there could still be an adults only section of the plane and cleaner air, whines Green, she could do without a cigarette! Afterall, there is always the nicotine patch! It's the noisy infants and the dirty cabin air which gets Green these post-smoke days!!:cry

Better to have safe legal abortions than unsafe illegal abortions like there used to be in them there good old days.

Yes, a homosexual is born that way and thus cannot and should not be expected to change. Nor should he be viewed as abnormal or a sinner. This is an issue of nature. A paedophile, as with all others who are in the thrall of specific sexual fetishes or compulsions, are individuals whose sexual nature is the result of early (childhood) imprinting. This is of course the result of nurture. Some sexual fetishes don't hurt anyone and are considered to be benign or quirky. These are personal kinks or compulsions in taste which don't hurt anyone. Paedophilia is not one of these. And it seems that our current psychiatric techniques are not all that effective in dealing with this issue. This is, as I understand it, a real tragedy for most paedophiles genuinely do love children and don't want to hurt them. They are aware that they are doing wrong, are filled with self-loathing and yet seem to operate under a trance. True sadist paedophiles are, I have heard, relatively rare.

As I have said in an earlier post, where I live (Ontario, Canada) does not allow smoking indoors in any public building anymore. Those restaurants and bars which did once have the option of choosing to be either family/smokeless establishments or smoking establishments no longer have that option. For a smoker like myself this is annoying but I have learned to deal with this. The one place where I still bitterly regret being unable to smoke is on aircraft. In those good old days the smokers were sent to the rear of the plane and this area usually ended up being an adults-only zone. This was an added benefit for us for we were not subjected to screaming babies nor tiny children who persisted in kicking the back of our seats during the entire duration of a transatlantic flight. The other advantage was the cabin air had to be flushed much more frequently with fresh air. This is expensive fuel-wise but I did not crawl home in those days, as I inevitably do now, with a wicked foreign cold or flu.

Thanks for posting this, airwaydude. I've got to admit that I do find these stories fascinating. Maybe this is because I've worked around men for so long and I now know when I should feel threatened and when men have gotta do what they have gotta do....hardwiring and all. Anyhow, my husband used to occasionally walk (no fossil fuels wasted, eh) over to our local strip club of a Sunday afternoon. A male friend of ours calls this worshipping at the Temple of Venus and says that it is a guy-thang. As for that, I laugh and grunt "more like worshipping at the Temple of Penis!" But I don't pay it no never mind. Anyhow, and this is the funny part, two doors up from us is this weird guy who won an Oscar for animation a few years back and who has always refused to have anything to do with anyone on the street but he is someone who my husband invariably finds loitering in the Temple of P/Venus. The dude is obviously there without his wife's blessing for he always has his shopping bags planted around his feet. And he gets really edgy when he sees my better half wander in for a beer and an hour of worship, um, er, whatever..........:rolleyes Of course, what happens in the Temple stays in the Temple - unless it involves my mate. Then a different set of rules applies.

I would be inclined to second Sunta's assessment of this situation. Paedophilia cannot be considered to be in the same category as drug dealing, prostitution, assault, aggravated assault or indeed murder unless the pattern of murder happens to pivot upon a sexual compulsion or fixation. Paedophiles, like others who are owned by a sexual compulsion or fetish, are, unlike homosexuals, made that way; they are not born that way and that is the difference. This is where the argument of nature vs nurture does come into play. In simple-minded terms this can be explained as follows: little Green is a heterosexual kid who likes boys. She loves and admires her father. The men to which she will be attracted will incorporate aspects of her own father. Another child might feel differently about his opposite sex parent or may feel the incest taboo so strongly that he will be repulsed by any woman who in any way resembles his mother. Anyone who is homosexual or who has gay friends or who, for that matter, has kept up with the latest scientific research on homosexuality is aware that homosexuality is not a question of lifestyle choice but is the luck of the genetic deck. On the other hand, research into paedophilia indicates that these individuals suffer from an array of psycho-social maladjustments dating from their own tragic early years and more often than not these creatures had suffered from childhood sexual abuse themselves.

The lack of access to all the icons/smilies - which do reside on the right hand side of the page - is causing me grief. It is leaving me kind of emotionless or, in psychiatric terms, with a lack of affect! Ugh!

I find that I am continually having use my scroll bar in order to centre the page on my screen and when I want to post I no longer have access to all the icons/smilies.:cry A solution to this might be to put the ad space back to the right hand side of the page.

It sounds like you were done at the hospital, not the TLBC clinic, eh? What kind of pain meds did they send you home with? Demerol or Tylenol 3s? How are you feeling post-op? Lots of questions, eh? And lots of congratulations to you from Green!!!! :waytogo:

Good luck to Shar and Crabcake!!

Yah, I am not exactly sure what PCOS is except that it screws up the metabolism and interferes with losing weight. I just read on another thread that the band works best for people who don't have a sweet tooth. People who have a sweet tooth tend to eat around it. The band works well for a bulk eater, and I was one of those. Good luck on your visit!

What a drag. Ladies of the knight would have been so much fun!

I am a long time smoker and when I first started smoking smokers could smoke everywhere: stores, restaurants, cabs, movie houses, planes.... It was a wonderful time for folks like me. Now my province has become completely smoke-free and one can only smoke outdoors. There had been a period of time when restaurants and bars had the choice; they could decide whether they wanted to be family or smoking establishments but that choice was finally taken away from them. All public establishments within the Province of Ontario were ordered to be smoke-free. From what I understand this law has hurt the hospitality business badly. Those restaurants and bars which do have outdoor patios - where smoking is allowed - do well during the warm months of the year. At first I was very offended by these changes. It had, afterall, been a smoker's world and cigarettes are a legal drug. Now I find myself accepting these changes and toeing the line. I have become accustomed to excusing myself from a social gathering and going outside in order to top up my nicotine levels. What I don't like is being treated to lengthy lectures concerning my nasty habit and why it is so bad for my health by well-meaning bystanders. Every smoker is fully aware that smoking is a dirty and destructive habit. It is also highly addictive and quitting is difficult for everyone and hellishly difficult for some! Hearing some do-gooder chirp that "smoking is bad for the health, you know," is both useless and wildly irritating to the smoker for, afterall, we all know that!