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Yah, grrl! That's what all my GFs want to know. Sadly for us, he is one of a kind. *sniff*

I think that it is splendid that you have read this article. Now that you have done so you are able to critique and comment on those aspects of it which you view as being valuable and true and those which you feel should be discounted. You have also been able to advise us of what you identify as discrepencies in the information which he provides concerning some of the church practices as well as provide us with your point of view. This is always a good thing.

Haha:nervous Good point! I forgot about that. I'm an atheist, you see....:tired

LOL You certainly are! :Banane43: And my husband is the answer to every woman's dream. He loves to shop, finds watching sports on TV boring, folds laundry, repairs stuff (if you wait long enough:rolleyes) and he does all the vaccuuming. And he is straight!:thumbs_up:

This paper wasn't intended to critique or even comment on church doctrine except as to its impact on women who have certain personality types. The author was born and raised and still is a practising member of his church. He clearly states that he himself has found his own life within the church to be a very satisfying one. He also states that the Mormon environment is an enviroment in which many women find great moral and emotional satisfaction. Indeed he has a daughter who is happy in her faith. He has chosen to examine through professional optics - he is a psychiatrist - the situation of those Mormon women who do run into psychological difficulties and he figures that their relationship with the teachings of the church and the role assigned to them through this belief system does play a role in their unhappiness. Why these women are unhappy, how significant the role of the church plays in this unhappiness, and how this distress manifests itself are issues which the author of this paper discusses. He himself is still engaged in his church. He is merely, as a medical man, describing a problem. By choosing not to read this paper you are choosing to close your mind, I think, and that may be a loss to you.

What if every lapbander who shops at LaneBryant writes in to management in order to complain about their marketing policies? There are a lot of us out here.

I had a similar experience in Florence. A magnificient transvestite wearing nothing other than a pair of hip high pair of suede leather boots with stilleto heels and a hip-length fur coat flashed me and this other foreign girl late one night. We had just finished eating a splendid dinner in a local trattoria, one where tourists never went when this happened. She saw us admiring her, paused, then flashed us, and giggled. We giggled back. It was a magical evening.

Only T-3s!:tired I got demerol, too, Yoda. Boy, I really enjoyed them! :faint: Congratulations to you, SusanS. :) (Too bad about the demerol, though.:cry )

The French love organ meats. The more expensive the restaurant in France the fewer the choices available to the squeamish Green! They love brains, kidneys and liver. Those meats are expensive over there and you have to become friends with your butcher before you can buy them. I don't like organ meats, nor fish, and I am quite grossed out by rabbit because the carcass looks like that of a dead cat.:tired These will all be on the menu at a very chic French restaurant. Happily they always serve steak, too, and that was what I always ordered.

Oh Yah! I am a fool for Bela Fleck and his Flecktones.

Wow! This is required reading IMHO. Thanks, Sunta.

Aren't you thinking of the late Don Ho???

Yah, Wheets, it sounds like you are kind of like me. I am totally out of the loop. I don't like diva-style pop music. It all sounds the same and it all sounds sentimental to me. I have never watched any of the Idols and I have never understood C&W or new country. I totally fail to get rap. :tired Within the framework of Jazz I have to admit that I can't stand ragtime although I recognise that this music is challenging for the musicians to play. I love Soul, R 'n B, the Blues, BeBop, and most of the conventional forms of jazz including Latin jazz. This being said, I can also say that I don't have much knowledge about music. Like a cow, I know what I like and that's about it.:phanvan

Thank you for saying this, Butt.

This is in the way of a P.S. about my mother and her beliefs. She did become in the way of a scavenger or a kind of collector crab when it came to religions. She liked to sort through them and would only agree to believe in the most positive aspects of their belief systems. She was, for instance, fond of the Hindu approach to animal life, the respect which this religion grants other living creatures. She would also try to argue herself out of colds and other viruses using the logic, as she saw it, inherent in Christian Science. She did not like the exclusionary aspects, the mean-spirited aspects which can and do grow around belief systems.

I was baptised and confirmed Anglican even though my father was a Jewish atheist and my mother was ambivalent about her belief at the time when we were small. It was however the 1950s and everyone was supposed to have a faith and so we were baptised in the Anglican church. My mother even attended church and made many half-hearted attempts to drag us along but we preferred to sit around the kitchen table with our father on a Sunday morning. As for confirmation, well, I was sent off to a boarding school run by Anglo-Catholic nuns when I was 10 and I briefly became very devout. It was during that period that I became confirmed. Later I drifted into Agnosticism and from there into outright disbelief. My mother remained a spiritual woman though she was certainly far from being a Christian at the time of her death. I believe that she felt that because so much of humanity had spent their time fervently searching for God and had, as a result, set up such an array of belief systems, that this must mean that there is Something Greater than Us out there. She did not, however, believe that one single religion had it right. She didn't see how one single religion could be the right one.

I actually watched this guy do this act on television and almost fell on the floor I was laughing so hard. I am really pleased that you posted this here. Big thanks, eh!

My brother, who is a doctor, my family doc and my shrink were all against me getting this operation. Now they are completely cool with it. I did get grief from the specialist who did my colonoscopy; she was one of those who felt that dieting and exercise are the solution to fat! Silly woman!!

Green listens to jazz, blues, classical and some ethnic music. That's the only music she likes.

P.S. Doddie, I was done by Dr. Yau, too. Congratulations, eh, from another Canuck.

I don't understand the logic behind this idea that by choosing to be banded one is "taking the easy way out," and yet I hear this all the time. The issue of weight is a complex one and hinges on much more than the simple fact of over-eating. Most of us have tried dieting and have failed many, many times. Many if not most of us have bought herbal remedies and over the counter diet pills in order to lose weight and none of that crap has worked, either. This is because weight is a complex issue. Having the lap band installed in order to lose weight, and thus to feel both psychologically and physically better and also save your health is certainly not taking the easy way out! It is simply employing a medical technique in order to assist in attacking a problem which is both physical and psychological in its make-up. The statement that this is 'taking the easy way out' is devoid of all logic in my opinion.

I liked the fact that this surgery was relatively non-invasive and that the band itself is adjustible to the point of being reversible. This means that if I ever find myself in the position of requiring the use of my entire stomach I can get a defill. Furthermore, I had this surgery done recently, at the advanced age of 57 in fact, and found it to be wonderfully easy to recover from.

I have chosen to be fairly open about it just as I chose to be fairly open about the fact that I suffer from depression and was off work because of this. I view both my weight issues and my problems with depression as being problems which have strong genetic links and which are, therefore, medical issues, not signs that I am a bad or weak person. The truth is that depression is a problem for my family. Another truth is that some of us Greens are fat. This is a matter of bad genetic luck as much as anything else. Fortunately for me, I live in an era where modern medical technology has developed some techniques for dealing with these problems and I am happy that I am able to profit from this knowledge. This is why I say that I am fairly open about telling people but I sure won't tell people who I feel won't understand and who will be malicious towards me. I figure that the objective of telling people is to share useful information, not to humiliate oneself.

Please do not give up hope, Denise. I know that you are having a slow go of it. You must talk to your doc and see a nutritionist, I think. The nutritionist can go over your calorie intake. The doctor should know about the difficulties you are having in order to see whether these are due to some other, hidden medical issue. I know that there are women who post on this site who have discovered - post banding - that they suffer from PCOS. This condition severely hampers weight loss. The reason I suggest that you have a nutritionist review your diet is so that when you do see your doctors they can't simply choose to ignore your problem, not because I think that you are doing anything wrong, by the way. It is just that you do want to have all your ducks in a row when it comes to dealing with the medical establishment.

Yah, what is magina???