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4yrs ago my 4ml band was fitted and after a month the surgeon inflated it to my personal max which was about 2.5 mls. Despite following the (very strict) rules to the letter, vomiting or constriction required him to empty the band 4 times in the first year. A month after each de-fill he filled it up again to my personal max (under x-ray) which was slightly different each time. eg 2.2mls, 2.7mls, 2.4mls.

I had now spent £10,000 in total on the op, fills, de-fills and travel to and from London. That was the end of year one and I had lost 7 stones.

As I could no longer afford my surgeon or the travel, I sought alternative help which was offered infrequently on the NHS in Scotland within driving distance. I was advised that mine is a very old 1st generation band and that bands were now in their 3rd generation. (Larger and softer). Many of my NHS appointments have been cancelled due to 'clinical commitments', and I have made up for a shortfall in timeous treatment by doing my own fills/defills. This is not rocket science and has been very successful for me. I do not recommend it for you. In fact I recommend that you do not do it. I only do it because I don't want to vomit acid in my sleep and then inhale it. (If I did this I might be in intensive care with lung damage and not be able to keep my NHS appointment 2 days later for an 'emergency unfill'.:scared2:)

After 4 banded years I now have slippage and am throwing in the towel. I Have found a lovely new surgeon in another town who seems to understand what I have gone through b4 and during this process.

So, having had my final unfill I would appreciate your advice on what options there are and the advantages and disadvantages of different types of surgery.

I still have this goal you see; that my BMI will be less than 25.

Nicky

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My personal advice is to not get another band. Once they slip, you are prone to it.

Here's a chart that compares the different surgeries as a starting point:

Weight-Loss Surgeries Compared

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4yrs ago my 4ml band was fitted and after a month the surgeon inflated it to my personal max which was about 2.5 mls. Despite following the (very strict) rules to the letter, vomiting or constriction required him to empty the band 4 times in the first year. A month after each de-fill he filled it up again to my personal max (under x-ray) which was slightly different each time. eg 2.2mls, 2.7mls, 2.4mls.

I had now spent £10,000 in total on the op, fills, de-fills and travel to and from London. That was the end of year one and I had lost 7 stones.

As I could no longer afford my surgeon or the travel, I sought alternative help which was offered infrequently on the NHS in Scotland within driving distance. I was advised that mine is a very old 1st generation band and that bands were now in their 3rd generation. (Larger and softer). Many of my NHS appointments have been cancelled due to 'clinical commitments', and I have made up for a shortfall in timeous treatment by doing my own fills/defills. This is not rocket science and has been very successful for me. I do not recommend it for you. In fact I recommend that you do not do it. I only do it because I don't want to vomit acid in my sleep and then inhale it. (If I did this I might be in intensive care with lung damage and not be able to keep my NHS appointment 2 days later for an 'emergency unfill'.:scared2:)

After 4 banded years I now have slippage and am throwing in the towel. I Have found a lovely new surgeon in another town who seems to understand what I have gone through b4 and during this process.

So, having had my final unfill I would appreciate your advice on what options there are and the advantages and disadvantages of different types of surgery.

I still have this goal you see; that my BMI will be less than 25.

Nicky

Nicky...

Many issues to address here. I won't respond in detail here.

If you want to cross post here:

Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy Surgery (VSG) AKA Gastric Sleeve (NEW!) - Lap Band Surgery and Lap Band Discussion Forum

I am happy to respond in detail.

This is the section for noobs looking for a band and I keep my comments about the band elsewhere. ;o)

There are alternatives. But I have to tell you, doing fills and unfills is nothing short of freak'en stupid and the best way I know how... to lose your band. It's dangerous and well, bad. Just really really bad.

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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