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Let me just say that I admire all of you that have had to self pay. I have to ask the question though...."if you were approved by your insurance and all cost were covered, but the doc wanted thousands more than insurance will pay, would you pay the difference?"

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It depends on what the thousands covered. Some docs have a program fee to cover costs of aftercare that aren't covered by most insurances. My surgeon does. I was self-pay so I didn't have to decide if I was going to pay it. :crying:

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But if you had insurance that says it covered and you go to a participating doctor and he wastes 2 months of your time to tell you he wants more, would you pay.

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NO because it's illegal for an in-network doctor to do that. I would feel like if he was that greedy or dishonest that who knows what he might skimp on etc. No way. There are too many reputable surgeons out there to bother with one that is unscrupulous.

You need to wait and see what happens with tricare; but I think you'll probably need to find a new doc. Better you find out now that having problems post op, you know? I think he's probably a turkey.

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No and I'd report him.

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I'd probably threaten to bill him for the time he cost me.

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I am going nuts waiting to hear back from Tricare and of course I have to wait til Tuesday. His office girl told me that even though he is a network provider (general Surgery), he is not contracted for Bariatric surgery and therefore they can charge. If that was the case then why did he accept my insurance for the Bariatric evalution? Kinda contradicting if you ask me.

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I know you are very unhappy but I don't think you're going to find your answer here. You'll just have to either wait and see what tricare says, pay him, or find another surgeon. That will be your decision to make...no one here can make it for you.

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I am not looking for an answer here I was just curious. When the office girl first presented the $$ amount difference I immediately started thinking of ways to come up with the money but it was after the emotions calmed down that I started to feel it was just plain wrong and he should not be able to do this. I have already picked out 2 surgeons to call tommorow. Thanks for the input

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Unfortunately the same thing happened to me in May. I went in for my pre-op and they wanted me to sign paperwork saying I would pay whatever Tricare didn't... which would have added up to several thousand.

The fact is that a Tricare network doctor can choose not to do "elective" procedures. I went round and round with Tricare and they said the hospital and doctor could refuse to take Tricare for the surgery. Technically they cannot balance bill, but you can sign your rights away, when I pushed the issue with the hospital they turned me away.

Where in Florida are you? I ended up having to go to Jacksonville, FL to get my surgery, which is 2.5 hours from where I like. It was unfortunate, because the other place wasted three months of my time.

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I am in Valdosta, GA.

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My doctor was out of network so I had to pay an additional $2000. I have to say it was the best money I ever spent! I am not hungry or craving bad things. I even started going to the gym. I am so glad I did this.

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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      On day 4 of the 2 week liquid pre-op diet. Surgery scheduled for June 11th.
      Soooo I am coming to a realization
      of something and I'm not sure what to do about it. For years the only thing I've enjoyed is eating. We rarely do anything or go anywhere and if we do it always includes food. Family comes over? Big family dinner! Go camping? Food! Take a short ride or trip? Food! Holiday? Food! Go out of town for a Dr appointment? Food! When we go to a new town we don't look for any attractions, we look for restaurants we haven't been to. Heck, I look forward to getting off work because that means it's almost supper time. Now that I'm drinking these pre-op shakes for breakfast, lunch, and supper I have nothing to look forward to.  And once I have surgery on June 11th it'll be more of the same shakes. Even after pureed stage, soft food stage, and finally regular food stage, it's going to be a drastic change for the rest of my life. I'm giving up the one thing that really brings me joy. Eating. How do you cope with that? What do you do to fill that void? Wow. Now I'm sad.
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      1. summerseeker

        Life as a big person had limited my life to what I knew I could manage to do each day. That was eat. I hadn't anything else to look forward to. So my eating choices were the best I could dream up. I planned the cooking in managable lots in my head and filled my day with and around it.

        Now I have a whole new big, bigger, biggest, best days ever. I am out there with those skinny people doing stuff i could never have dreamt of. Food is now an after thought. It doesn't consume my day. I still enjoy the good home cooked food but I eat smaller portions. I leave food on my plate when I am full. I can no longer hear my mother's voice saying eat it all up, ther are starving children in Africa who would want that!

        I still cook for family feasts, I love cooking. I still do holidays but I have changed from the All inclusive drinking and eating everything everyday kind to Self catering accommodation. This gives me the choice of cooking or eating out as I choose. I rarely drink anymore as I usually travel alone now and I feel I need to keep aware of my surroundings.

        I don't know at what point my life expanded, was it when I lost 100 pounds? Was it when I left my walking stick at home ? Was it when I said yes to an outing instead of finding an excuse to stay home ? i look back at my last five years and wonder how loosing weight has made such a difference. Be ready to amaze yourself.

        BTW, the liquid diet sucks, one more day and you are over the worst. You can do it.

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