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I'm so intrigued by this because I like to look like I've made an effort but I really loathe a full face of makeup.

Its that sunlight look. You can put your makeup on and it looks OK inside and then you see it in sunlight and its just so obvious and layered on thick and it looks truly awful. I much prefer bare faces, only my bare face needs some help.

My main problem though is that I have dark undereye circles and slight redness around the nose and chin. So I definitely need light foundation. And that's what tends to look ugly out in the daylight, although mineral stuff is good.

So if you wear a light foundation, does that "cover up" the eyeliner so that you need to go over it with a pencil anyway?

Lol Susan, I've actually dreamed of losing all my hair and having an excuse to just wear a wig everyday. My hair is the biggest pain in the bum you could imagine. My latest is to have a shower and do it at night , then sleep on it to squash the frizz out so I dont have to bother in the morning.

Hey Jacqui,

What you need for the redness around the nose and mouth and the darkness under the eye is a good concealer, so let me introduce you to your new best friend -- Pro Lumière Correcteur Professional Finish Concealer, by Chanel. Awesome stuff!!! I carry it with me at all times.

I assume this product is available in your part of the world, but I know that cosmetic companies often vary their product selection from country to country. So if you can't find that, try Touche Éclat' Radiant Touch, by Yves St. Laurent (actually my long-standing favorite until I discovered the Chanel).

Both are great and very light and natural looking, and both will last you a long time as a little goes a long way. If you want to set the undereye concealer (a must in my climate), try Secret Brightening powder, by Laura Mercier.

Then a light dusting of a quality mineral makeup on top. I swear by Laura Mercier's mineral makeup. Some of the others, like Bare Escentuals, are not milled finely enough, so the look is rather fake and heavy. I also do not like the orangey undertones tones of that product line.

None of these products should interfere with permanent eyeliner as you would not really be applying them in the same area as the liner.

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I've wanted to do the eyeliner bit for years.... and darn it, I think I will :thumbup: I have an entire week off in October, just for me, and that sounds like the perfect time to go this route.

I've used a dark green eyeliner (I've got green eyes.... seems to be the way many go: eye color = eye liner color) forever and will go with that. In the mean time I'll research permanent make up artists in the Portland, OR area. Surely they have some one who can do this....

Looking forward to seeing pictures frangi!!!

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Cori,

Go for it!!! I'll think you'll really like it!!!!

It's not really saving me very much time because I still have a very involved make-up regime BUT it sure does look better -- especially at night when the applied makeup comes off.

The next thing I want to try are the permanent eyelashes!!!!

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I would love permanent eye lashes. I need some killer ones...lol...:wink:

BBK, I bet the eyelashes work really well for photos!!! With your height -- you should go for the "glam" ones.

I've decided that I'm going to have this done while I'm in Miami. Assuming I survive my butt lift next week (LOL :wink2:). There is a lady who does them here on the island, but (like everything else around here) it's expensive. I found a spa in Miami that does them for $90 -- for that price I'll give it try, why not?

Between this, the makeup, the updated PS pics, and the backside work, I know I owe you guys about 30 zillion pics, and I promise I will put some up as soon as I can!!!

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Hey Frangi, I can't believe I completely missed this thread. What fun you are having! I've often thought about the permanent makeup but have been too afraid. I can't wait to see your pictures. It might give me the courage to go forward.

What happens to the permanent lines if you decide to have an eye lift later? Would they laser them away or would you end up with your eye line in your crease? Surely not!

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Hey Becky,

I don't know how this permanent eyeliner might affect PS on the eyes -- definitely something to ask about in advance if you are considering it.

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OKay, I have a tip for all you gals that want longer eyelashes. I bought this product at my plastic surgeon's office and it really works. It's called "Revitalash." It was designed by a doctor's whose wife lost all her eyelashes during chemotherapy. You just put it on like eyeline, except on the top lashes, before you go to bed. I started noticing a difference in about weeks. For the first time in my life, I don't have twigs, my lashes are getting thicker and are definetly longer (people comment on them). Revitalash is expensive ($150), but I think the tuble will last for a long time. It just amazing to me, that there are products for this kind of thing!

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Thanks for the tip Karey.... and considering all the $$ I've spent on every type and brand of "best mascara available" to get longer, see-able lashes I don't think $150 sounds too bad at all! I'll have to check and see if it is available locally or if I can order it on line...

I've been researching places in both Vancouver, WA and Portland, OR (just over the river) that do permanent make-up and I have been so disappointed! The places I've found that actually have images available seem so harsh... the lines are thick and obvious. One of the nurses I work with had it done and she HATES it. But, she has a thick, dark line on both her upper and lower lids. I want the results that you posted Frangi.... thin, smudged looking, natural lines. Beaverton, OR and the westside is more upscale.... or The Pearl area in Portland.... I should be able to find something!!!

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Oh, and Becky, I would think/hope the line is so close to the lash line that any eye creases woudn't be affected during PS.

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OKay, I have a tip for all you gals that want longer eyelashes. I bought this product at my plastic surgeon's office and it really works. It's called "Revitalash." It was designed by a doctor's whose wife lost all her eyelashes during chemotherapy. You just put it on like eyeline, except on the top lashes, before you go to bed. I started noticing a difference in about weeks. For the first time in my life, I don't have twigs, my lashes are getting thicker and are definetly longer (people comment on them). Revitalash is expensive ($150), but I think the tuble will last for a long time. It just amazing to me, that there are products for this kind of thing!

OMG Karey! I bought that last year after I noticed a co-worker's lashes that were just so long. It's definitely helped me get rid of my scrawney lashes.

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Question for those of you who use revitalash..... do you still wear mascara during the day? I mean, I know you put it on your own, mascara-free lashes/lash line at night, but then can you wear mascara during the day while the stuff is beginning to work, or do you have to leave your lashes make-up free for some down time? Just curious as i don't know how long I could actually last without mascara.

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Cori: I still wear mascara. My lashes are light and besides, I'm emotionally attached to mascara! You only don't have to wear mascara at night when you apply the Revitalash! I really am pleased with the length and thickness of my lashes!

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Thanks Karey :crying: I told my husband today that I'm going to try it.... I want it to be here NOW. (I'm ordering on-line as I've no clue where I'd buy it locally.)

I also found another place in vancouver that does permanent make-up. They don't show their photos/results on-line but have a make-over book in house that I can look through. I want to make sure and get someone who has experience AND good results :wink2:

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HI glamour girls!! I have had my brows and eye lids done for 4 years! I had the brows retouched last year...I need the eyes done again...

I LOVED it but was sad to see how fast it faded on me??? I am great about wearing sunscrean/ dark glasses outside etc,,, my body chemistry likes to absorb it...so, I will do my lider again some day soon! but I LOVE it!

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