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Hi guys

so I’m having a hard time trying to get answers on how much to be eating. I have portion sizes from my guide that the hospital gave me but there is no caloric values or macros listed in it.

I used ChatGPT to see what it recommends and it says 800 calories a day for where I am post op.

anyone have any input as to where I’m supposed to be at? I’m just now at 2 months post op and going nuts.

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They probably didn't give you any calorie values because they don't want you worrying about that yet. As long as you're not eating more than the recommended amounts, you'll be fine.

As to macros, the absolute minimum recommended Protein amount would be 60 grams, but really, shooting for 100+ would be better. It can be hard for some folks to hit that higher value early on, so as long as you're getting a minimum of 60, you should be okay for now. Just try to work up to 100+ as time goes on. Eventually, ~1 gram per pound of bodyweight would be a better target for protein, but I'd be surprised if you're able to get there at 2 months post-op. I wouldn't worry too much about carbs and fats at this point other than to say you do need a bare minimum of fats to make sure you get your essential fatty acids.

In short, eat the recommended portion sizes, aspirationally shoot for 100 grams of good quality protein per day, at least 30 grams of (good), fats per day, and the rest can be carbs. Your carbs should ideally be from whole food sources like veggies, grains and fruits.

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I was never given macros or calories just portion size recommendations & it came from my surgeon not the hospital. I was told to begin with 1/4 - 1/3 cup from purée stage gradually increasing to a cup at 6 months. I was also told 60g Protein & keep low fat & low carbs. And I clearly remember my surgeon drawing a picture of a plate and sectioning it off to show the portion of protein, vegetables and carbs on a plate I would be consuming at a meal when I was in maintenance.

If you think you’ll feel more comfortable with having more guidance, keep pushing your dietician or surgical team. It comes down to what you feel you need to be most successful.

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I never got information about that either. I was just told the portion size and to eat the Protein first. I'm 6 months post op and to be honest, I don't even think about macros or calories except to make sure I get protein in first. That's probably not good for me in the long run, I know, but counting calories has been to much for my mental health at the moment so I've been focusing on portion size and protein.

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I was given no guidelines *at all* after my sleeve. No permitted volumes, no suggested macros - I mean nothing.

I learned everything I know here and managed to survive despite that! I did angst a lot in the first months too. Not nice to be set adrift after such life altering surgery and to be expected to navigate our own way.

All the advice above is sound, and it's what got me though. I hope you do really well.

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I’m still trying to navigate my way thru this transition and it’s harder everyday. I just feel stuck that’s why I’m trying to get others input and try to “find my way”. It gets frustrating when I see other people losing alot of weight off the bat .. I’ve lost 20 lbs in the last two months and feel that’s not sufficient but then again is there a general number we’re supposed to be down by month 2 ? Ugh I drive myself nuts with that and I’m tryin to get my mindset right but I end up freaking out and stressing over it.

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I just checked and at 2 months, I was down 20.6 lbs from the day of surgery. There's really not a hard and fast rule for how much you'll lose. Everyone is different and it depends on your starting point and how much you lost pre-op, too. I had some months when I lost a lot and other months where I hardly lost anything, but overall it moved steadily downward. My weight loss has stalled for the past month or so, now that I am more than a year out.

The only guidelines I was given was 60g minimum of Protein per day and 64oz Water. I am now almost 14 months post-op and I've gone from 225 lbs on surgery day (251 was my highest, which was 6 months pre-op) to anywhere from 162-165lbs. My exercise consists of walking and that's it. I'd like to lose another 10 lbs but I'm also pretty fine with where I am as long as I don't gain (which is why I do hope to lose a bit more). I've gone from a size 22 to a size 12. I think I could still lose a bit more if I focused on cutting out some bad habits that have crept in with sweets/simple carbs, and if I increased my daily exercise to something a little more challenging than a walk.

I don't count calories and I don't really track macros at this point, either. I just try to eat reasonable meals that focus on protein and veggies, and not snack too much or eat junk food too often. A typical day is either spinach frittata, Kodiak protein oatmeal, or a Greek yogurt for Breakfast, plus a serving of mixed fruit (strawberries, cantaloupe, blueberries, grapes. lunch is a good size spinach salad with 3oz chicken and some black Beans. dinner might be a bowl of homemade chicken, bean, and veggie Soup, chili, or maybe some grilled meat and veggies. Sometimes I eat chickpea Pasta with marinara and meatballs but other types of pasta and breads don't settle well. For Snacks, I like string cheese and an apple, or some mixed nuts or roasted edamame.

I have to be careful of overindulging in things like popcorn, candy, and Cookies because they are too easy to eat without getting full (and sadly I don't get dumping from them). Red meat fills me up very quickly. The hardest thing for me now is dealing with the head hunger that makes me want to reach for food if I am bored or stressed. Getting the stuff out of the house completely is the only strategy that really works for me with that.

My only real advice is don't drive yourself crazy. Just do your best each day and pay attention to your body. That's more important than counting calories. You're not on a diet! You need to figure out what you can sustain for the rest of your life, while paying attention now to the basics (protein and water, plus vitamins) to keep up your health.

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3 hours ago, Just a phase 98 said:

... It gets frustrating when I see other people losing alot of weight off the bat .. I’ve lost 20 lbs in the last two months and feel that’s not sufficient but then again is there a general number we’re supposed to be down by month 2 ? Ugh I drive myself nuts with that and I’m tryin to get my mindset right but I end up freaking out and stressing over it.

okay, breath. There isn’t a number or hard rules about what we’re all supposed to have lost by a certain time - 2 months or any other time frame. There are averages around rate of loss, how much you’ll lose, how long it will take, etc. But, as is expected with all averages, there will be those who do more than the average and those who do less. And there’s nothing wrong with that. All the averages should do is give you are idea of what MIGHT happen not what WILL happen. Too many factors influence your rate of loss and how much you will lose: gender, age, pre existing medical conditions, mobility, starting weight, and so on.

Some surgeons may have some expectations but unless you aren’t losing anything in the first months (except during a stall) you have nothing to worry about & can breath easily.

Actually all of us have to go through trying to work all this out further ourselves. Simply because we are different and what might work for someone may not work for you. Always start with the plan given to you by your surgeon and dietician and then after the first couple of months, start developing your own plan and way of eating to continue your lose and then maintain. Do some research (be critical in your analysis of your research, avoid fads and influencer talk), talk to your dietician, your doctor, ask for advice here and try things out and see how you go. You’ll make mistakes along the way and that’s okay.

Losing about 2lbs a week is nothing to be concerned about. 2lbs a week is generally thought to be a good rate of loss for anyone (surgery, medication or doing it alone). I always say Celebrate every pound you lose. Congratulations on your weight loss so far.

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