Pre-Workout Non-Stim Energy ... stuff.

[mousecat88 2,281]

I am in desperate need of a non-stim energy booster for pre-workout. I am persistently tired (I've been this way my whole life, nothing new).... and going to the gym is a waking nightmare (although I suck it up and do it). Looking for some supplements or non-stim weight loss/metabolism boosters + energy boosters to take pre-workout. I can't take any stimulants because I have bad anxiety and even a cup of tea makes me feel like I am having a panic attack, lol. I am really overwhelmed by all of the options on Amazon.

I currently take the following vitamins/supplements: Thyronine (T2), chia seed extract, Vitamin e, Calcium, keratin, Vitamin D, super b complex, Iron, bariatric multi, and magnesium citrate. I do have some green tea extract on the way.

[justmetj 421]

I recommend Optimum Nutrition Amino Acids. It's a great pre work out and it's also good to use if you're intermittently fasting.

https://www.gnc.com/optimum-nutrition-amino-energy/352490.html?mrkgcl=1098&mrkgadid=3317257956&product_id=352490&flagtype=nonbrand&vendor=none&channel=ppc&adpos=1o2&creative=304499128058&device=t&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg8LP-NKW4QIV7h-tBh0Gbg2WEAQYAiABEgLZ_vD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[RickM 1,753]

Unfortunately, the ON amino product has a pretty good dose of caffeine in it (looks like a can and a half of Coke's worth) so that may not go over if the OP is sensitive to such stimulants.

Not a particular product, but what I had worked out with my RD was a fairly common pre-workout snack profile of something fairly high in complex carbohydrates, moderate in Protein and low to moderate in fat; what worked for me convenience-wise (since my gym time is usually after lunch sometime) was a small sandwich of meat and cheese on a slice of good quality whole grain bread. That let me stretch my energy out so that I could swim beyond an hour, where I had previously hit a wall.

My nephew, who is an RD in training, tends to use a traditional CLIF bar for that purpose, as they generally hit the same basic profile.

I didn't add any more calories to may day, but just reallocated and re-timed what I was already consuming.

[justmetj 421]

4 minutes ago, RickM said:

Unfortunately, the ON amino product has a pretty good dose of caffeine in it (looks like a can and a half of Coke's worth) so that may not go over if the OP is sensitive to such stimulants.

Not a particular product, but what I had worked out with my RD was a fairly common pre-workout snack profile of something fairly high in complex carbohydrates, moderate in Protein and low to moderate in fat; what worked for me convenience-wise (since my gym time is usually after lunch sometime) was a small sandwich of meat and cheese on a slice of good quality whole grain bread. That let me stretch my energy out so that I could swim beyond an hour, where I had previously hit a wall.

My nephew, who is an RD in training, tends to use a traditional CLIF bar for that purpose, as they generally hit the same basic profile.

Yes you're right it does have caffeine from green tea. The same source of caffeine that mousecat88 has already ordered.

[RickM 1,753]

I wasn't thinking so much about the source, but the amount. At 100mg, that's about three cups of tea, one of which she says will give her problems.

Assuming that this isn't an anemia problem (I know mousecat has been through the wringer on a lot of things post-op, so I assume that this would have come out in any labs that have been done in concert with her problems) then it could well be a more basic nutritional problem. Many get into some of these very low carbohydrate diets under the assumption that they will help their weight loss, but they can lead to this kind of energy problem. That simple slice of bread made a big difference to me, and I wasn't doing a particularly low carb diet to begin with.

[justmetj 421]

2 minutes ago, RickM said:

I wasn't thinking so much about the source, but the amount. At 100mg, that's about three cups of tea, one of which she says will give her problems.

Assuming that this isn't an anemia problem (I know mousecat has been through the wringer on a lot of things post-op, so I assume that this would have come out in any labs that have been done in concert with her problems) then it could well be a more basic nutritional problem. Many get into some of these very low carbohydrate diets under the assumption that they will help their weight loss, but they can lead to this kind of energy problem. That simple slice of bread made a big difference to me, and I wasn't doing a particularly low carb diet to begin with.

Very true. Carbs are an important part of our dietary needs as far as energy is concerned. Also on further review of the caffeine in the Optimum Nutrition, caffeine is also sourced from green coffee so maybe not a good choice.

[mousecat88 2,281]

On 3/22/2019 at 7:07 PM, RickM said:

I wasn't thinking so much about the source, but the amount. At 100mg, that's about three cups of tea, one of which she says will give her problems.

Assuming that this isn't an anemia problem (I know mousecat has been through the wringer on a lot of things post-op, so I assume that this would have come out in any labs that have been done in concert with her problems) then it could well be a more basic nutritional problem. Many get into some of these very low carbohydrate diets under the assumption that they will help their weight loss, but they can lead to this kind of energy problem. That simple slice of bread made a big difference to me, and I wasn't doing a particularly low carb diet to begin with.

Honestly, I have been tired my entire life. I used to be 140lbs and was always exhausted then. Just... permanently zapped of energy. Carbs, no carbs. Nothing helps. I ordered the green tea extract because they all say "non-stimulant", but I guess they meant not an artificial stimulant? I don't know. I'm going to take ONE and see if it makes me panic. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C2TPQ21/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 That's what I ordered. It legit says stimulant free on it, which doesn't really make sense?

I know there's like creatine and arginine, etc. Didn't know if those do much of anything.

[mousecat88 2,281]

I see someone asked my exact question.. lol...

Is this decaffeinated green tea? Green tea naturally containans 25mg of caffeine per 8oz so I'm concerned about the stimulant effect of this item.

Answer:

We understand the concern, but the Signature Green Tea should be fine as there is no caffeine with this. It is a non stimulant.

[mousecat88 2,281]

https://www.amazon.com/Nitric-Oxide-Supplement-AAKG-Powerful-Supplements/dp/B07KYGM3QZ/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=clean+no+booster&qid=1553539496&s=gateway&sr=8-3

Considering this.