Eating too fast, not chewing enough, or???

[CurvyMom 386]

Just getting opinions BEFORE I decide if I want to email the doctor's office. I call them about two weeks ago and they never called me back, so I figure I would get opinions here before I waste time calling them

6 weeks P.O today.....allowed all foods. I have been eating yogurt, cottage cheese, chicken salad....etc. Added in occassionally- blue berries, some raw veggies, some cooked veggies. I have had some experience with what I assumed was eating too fast/too much and/or not chewing enough and eventually i have to throw up to feel better.

the past week, i have throw up almost every meal with Protein in it unless it was yogurt, cottage cheese, tuna (although once I threw that up), chicken salad yesterday. This morning I feel like i have blue berries stuck and threw up a few time already. These berries were soooooo small. Smaller than my normal pills I can swallow without being sick. two days ago i threw up salmon and green Beans (maybe the beans?), then yesterday I threw up my lunch which was rotisserie chiicken (but there was definitely a piece of chicken stuck for hours...so I know i didnt chew it enough- cuz i saw it later TMI SORRY).....

any suggestions? Shoudl I just slow the hell down and go back to soft only and stop trying Proteins that are "denser"....I really don't think I have a stricture though because I am able to keep down plain cottage cheese, plain yogurt, liquids ...etc but who am I to know.

I am also not losing any weight right now which could be that I"m just not getting enough protein in or I am just stalled- but my primary issue is the vomitting almost every day.

[CurvyMom 386]

I did email the dietcian....but would still be good if anyone has any feedback- I am going to try to wait about 4-5 minutes between each bite of food at lunch and see how i do.

[GreenTealael 24,956]

29 minutes ago, CurvyMom said:

Should I just slow the hell down and go back to soft only and stop trying Proteins that are "denser"...

Both.

Whenever someone gets sick from foods early on, my Team's plan is a full stop for a day back to then stage that gave you no problems at all (likely all. very soft foods) then slowly reintroduce foods one at a time to check which ones are giving you a problem.

Also maybe dont mix any raw foods with cooked (so you can differentiate) and chew very very well.

Good luck and Let us know what your team thinks 💜

Edited March 20, 2019 by GreenTealael

[GradyCat 3,693]

I've thrown up "the foamies" (no food, just mucus) when I eat something too dense and then I know my body's not ready for it. Items include soft tortillas, steak, and ham.

[CurvyMom 386]

Just now, GradyCat said:

I've thrown up "the foamies" (no food, just mucus) when I eat something too dense and then I know my body's not ready for it. Items include soft tortillas, steak, and ham.

NO this is full on throwing up everyting in my pouch- like today's Breakfast of yogurt and blueberries, I still cannot drink Water because it hurts every time I try--then i wait and have to force myself to throw up and it's almost like I have to really try to get the food out. it's hard to explain but I feel like i have something stuck...then out comes whatever (in this case blueberries all chewed up UGH).

this sucks!

[Avery's Mom 315]

5 minutes ago, CurvyMom said:

NO this is full on throwing up everyting in my pouch- like today's Breakfast of yogurt and blueberries, I still cannot drink Water because it hurts every time I try--then i wait and have to force myself to throw up and it's almost like I have to really try to get the food out. it's hard to explain but I feel like i have something stuck...then out comes whatever (in this case blueberries all chewed up UGH).

this sucks!

yeah you need to go back in for a face to face. this is not normal. I know when I had too much or ate too fast but never throw up. just have that too full feeling until something slides out the bottom lol

[CurvyMom 386]

Just now, Avery's Mom said:

yeah you need to go back in for a face to face. this is not normal. I know when I had too much or ate too fast but never throw up. just have that too full feeling until something slides out the bottom lol

UGH --- hopefully she emails me back today.

Shockingly I feel great otherwise....

[CurvyMom 386]

Just now, ms.sss said:

Try slowwwwwing down. Back when I was 6 weeks post-op, I waited 10-15 minutes between each bite. If I didn't do this, I may end up going past my full point and I would feel that pressure in my chest and soon would need to throw up to get some relief. Even now, 5 months post op, I still space out my eating, but now I'll take 2-3 bites (instead of 1) and then wait 5-10 minutes (sometimes more) before I decide if I take another bite or two.

Yeah, I think I definitely need to try this! I notice sometimes I just take two quick bites before I realize what i am doing and then that just ends up badly. I ate chicken salad yesterday afternoon and did this- I was actually talking to one of my employees but it took me about 30 minutes and I ate 4 ounces of non pureed chicken salad and really just took small bites, chewed well, and ate very slow and I was fine.

[NYJenn 1,463]

After you eat too fast and things get stuck or you throw up, give your tummy a rest for a day or so. It gets irritated, at least mine does. Go back a stage and eat softer things

Edited March 20, 2019 by NYJenn

[CurvyMom 386]

So I ate lunch very slowly- like 45 minutes slow. Had about 3-3.5 ounces of premade tzatziki chicken salad (so good) that I got in an 8 pack at coscto (4ounces each)....and a teaspoon of hummus with 4 slices of cucumber no peel) and 3 strips of red peppers. TINY bites and chewed to smithers and voila- no issues. Almost 1.5 hours later and I have been able to drink a premier shake and a bottle of Water now. le sigh- it's probably me and my pouch having a love/hate relationship and trying to go too soon on some Proteins. Still waiting on the NUT to get back to me though.

Edited March 20, 2019 by CurvyMom

[CurvyMom 386]

21 hours ago, CurvyMom said:

So I ate lunch very slowly- like 45 minutes slow. Had about 3-3.5 ounces of premade tzatziki chicken salad (so good) that I got in an 8 pack at coscto (4ounces each)....and a teaspoon of hummus with 4 slices of cucumber no peel) and 3 strips of red peppers. TINY bites and chewed to smithers and voila- no issues. Almost 1.5 hours later and I have been able to drink a premier shake and a bottle of Water now. le sigh- it's probably me and my pouch having a love/hate relationship and trying to go too soon on some Proteins. Still waiting on the NUT to get back to me though.

No response to my email...so I called today and LM. Nothing yet-- dinner last night was a failure- 1 ounce of chicken thigh and about 2 ounces of soft cauliflower--- I couldn't keep even Water down three hours later. UGH woke up today feeling parched! Water is fine today and I had really thinned out oatmeal w/ fairlife milk (which I hate eating due to the high carbs, but I really just wanted something warm).

Now I am trying one hard boiled egg mashed up w/ a little light mayo and a laughing cow. sigh...what a PITA

keep smiling though.

[CurvyMom 386]

A nurse called from my dr office....she said the PA suggests slowing down, chewing more (like everyone suggested) and likely chicken and red meat could be hard right now- also make sure food is wet- I said to my coworker ugh wet meat- like a cat LOL

She also recommended I take a second dose of PPI at night for a week or so until my stomach feels better...so I am going to start that immediately and just SLOW down and keep trying things one at a time. baby steps it is.

[CurvyMom 386]

Just now, ms.sss said:

hope the new strategy makes things better for you, keep us updated

Thank you. It's helpful to see comparisons. I did notice the eating a lot slower and if I have something like chicken salad (lots of dressing or whatnot in it) it's easier to eat and chew to mush versus tryingo to cut a piece of meat up and chew and take tiny bites. 1-2 ounce is about all I can actually get down if it's not in a salad or if it's not yogurt and cottage cheese...now I just have to keep it down!

[CurvyMom 386]

Just a quick update- the extra medicine helped tremendously (at least I think so)- my stomach doesn't feel so blah anymore - it was just sore feeling and kinda hurt. As if I had been throwing up for two weeks - go figure.

Since Friday evening no more vomiting! YAY!!! I am just eating differently. Still have a little raw veggies but not a lot and 100% focused on protein...trying to embrace shakes again. I need to experiment with a morning coffee shake and some other shakes I think to keep them not so boring but overall, things are going much better. I have upped my Protein to around 70-80g which is still not crazy high but I was definitely not hitting any type of protein goals because I couldn't keep anything down. Since Friday the scale has moved 4lbs ! I will keep with this for a few weeks until I am ready to try other foods. Thanks everyone for the advice and support also!

[Size66 7]

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