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Different things work for different people. Thats my view.

What works for me is, I do not intentionally eat low carb. Infact I do not really track, every now and again I will weigh food to see how I am doing. My plan does not call for me to track.

I follow the rules of Protein first, after that I eat veg like spinach paired with some dairy like cheese. I do allow myself other things too..

For me when I am in a natural stall as it happens. I am too impatient to wait for it to be over so my tool then will be to intentionally lower my carbs if I thought it went abit higher. By focusing more on protein for a few meals.

I could not care less on what is or is not a fad , I do not follow anyone elses plan as it can get tricky if you pick up all the variations there are on here.

But to answer your question my team prefers low fat low calorie not low carb high fat.

I prefer...

To just see how I feel and try and be healthy and do what I can .. then hope for the best.

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On 16/01/2018 at 10:55 PM, Sammy 10-30 said:

Maybe you have epilepsy and do not know it and did you your doctor recommend this diet bliziar? Most likely not being that the originator of the thread mention earlier that his nutritionist said NO, NO. I stand corrected maybe its not a textbook definition fad diet, just the one's taking the risk doing it makes this diet a fad, when the diet was design for other uses. "The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control epilepsy in children". However, I am not buying for a minute bariatric surgeons will ever recommend this diet for any of their patients and I agree with Russ nutritionist advice that this diet is a horrible idea and worst advice to give to any bariatric patient, not knowing their full circumstances.

For alot of people the ketogenic diet means a diet that puts you into ketosis ( Under aprox 20g of carbs for alot of people) The most famous variation is most likely the high fat type. But there are many people in ketosis without the high fat part. Many peoples bariatric plan calls for under 20g of carbs a day, mine does not. But they seem successful.

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On 16/01/2018 at 10:55 PM, Sammy 10-30 said:

Maybe you have epilepsy and do not know it and did you your doctor recommend this diet bliziar? Most likely not being that the originator of the thread mention earlier that his nutritionist said NO, NO. I stand corrected maybe its not a textbook definition fad diet, just the one's taking the risk doing it makes this diet a fad, when the diet was design for other uses. "The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet that in medicine is used primarily to treat difficult-to-control epilepsy in children". However, I am not buying for a minute bariatric surgeons will ever recommend this diet for any of their patients and I agree with Russ nutritionist advice that this diet is a horrible idea and worst advice to give to any bariatric patient, not knowing their full circumstances.

His nut saying no doesn't mean that is the case for the next persons plan..

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