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I wanted to go with Dr Illan, but for some reason Bill would not reply when I asked about any medical loans they recommend. I even filled out the questionnaire and was approved for surgery.


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I am a 47 yo man who had lap band placed in Mexico in 2014. My insurance did not cover such surgeries at that time. I had many complications over the years with my lap band and got very little support once I left Mexico. In november of 2016 i had finally had enough of dealing with the complications. I went to a local batriatric doctor who removed my lap band due to 95 % blockage due to slippage of the band and using a band that was too small. I explained prior to surgery that i did not want to gain the 100 plus pounds back that i gad lost. My doctor assured me that he would replace the band with gastric sleeve in a timely manner even if it meant finding funds from elsewhere to pay for the surgery. Removal went fine. Surgery was covered by insurance. 3 months later we sent paperwork in to my insurance company for gastric sleeve as a replacement. It and the previous removal were immediately denied. I called my insurance and my doctor over a dozen times in the last 4 months. I finally found someone at the insurance company willing to find out what and why everything happened. Their explanation was that someone from my docs office had put part of my band removal paperwork in with the gastric sleeve paperwork. This was all given to a different individual to review than the person who had reviewed my removal. Since, all has been resolved and the original surgery has been covered.
Now its been 7 plus months since band removal. I have gained almost 100 lbs back and am on the verge of losing my 17 year position due to weight restrictions. I have no problem with these restrictions. They are justifiable due to my type of job. Problem is that my sleeve doctor wants me to go on a 90 day liver reducing diet. I feel like I have waited long enough and they should do the surgery immediately due to this all being their screw up. I am considering just taking the.money out of my 401k and going to.mexico again. But if I do I need a doctor that can do the surgery in the next 4 to 6 weeks. Any advice????

Dr. Ariel Ortiz in Tijuana, Mexico is top notch. Just had revision from band to vsg last week.

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I dont n4ed to see a psychologist, i just love to eat. I Iived with my lap band for over 2 years and was able to stick to that lifestyle change, and im sure ill be able to stick to anothet one. People often asked me if i miswed eating certwin foods or larger amountd. My answer was always yes i do, but id much rsther be at a healthy weight and abke to do physical things than to eat a whole pizza at one sitting.
I guess seeing as this was only supposed to be a 4 month turn around between surgeries i really took advantqge of being able to eat anytjing and everything. I got down to 171 with the lapband, the more blockage i experienced the more liquids i took in to compensate for missing meals, in fact the last 4 months i ate only 4 sit down meals, the rest consisted of liquids, including chocolate milk and Protein Shakes. I put about 25 lbs on just from them. Ill have no problem adjusting, i want to get bavk to 170 again.
Today, i located the funds to pay for surgery, spoke to Bill, filled out the questionaire, requested fmla paperwork as a back up, found out what i need to do to get short term disability, and am now waiting on a decision. I also hesrd from the other doctors office. They told me that they think they would not be able to get approval in such a short time. I myself have already checked what it takes to get approved for any bariatric surgery, I have to have 2 of 4 different factors of which i have 2. High BP and a bmi of 45 or above. I feel like they have dropped the ball and given me even less support than i recieved when i had the lap band placed. Not one time in 7 months has anyone called and asked me how I was nor have they callef to help me resolve the insurance issues. I did all of that on my own. Im now Mexico bound as soon as I get a date and approval.


It sounds like you do need to speak with someone that kind of behavior means you are not ready... The doctor did make a mistake in paperwork but they are not responsible for your weight, but yet you blame them take responsibility. Buckle up drop some lbs by eating the right things whether you get insurance approval or go to Mexico it will only help your recovery and please talk to someome about your eating habits. I say this not to be a jerk but time and time again I see people doing this same exact situation and failing post surgery! Your lively hood I. E. Work and YOU are worth it.

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