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I am 6'3 420 I am looking into the sleeve. I was considering bypass because of the dumping as a negative reinforcement. When I met with surgeon he recommended vsg which threw me for a loop. Now I'm worried without the dumping I can't stick with the diet plan. I don't know if it's because my head can't fathom the idea of eating so little with the way I can currently eat if wanted to. Also does removing the hunger hormone help you mentally in regards to over eating. Also if I can here from men with the vsg would be a great help especially if you were my size when you had the surgery done.

Thank you in advance

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My max weight was close to yours, but I am 5'9" - so I get the feelings at the start. The answer to your questions is "YES". VSG creates a physiological change in you that takes your "willpower" out of the drivers seat. The removal of the hunger hormone will show you very clearly what the difference is between head hungry and hungry. You will have all you need to overcome it, between this forum, your surgical team, and the changes in your body and mind.

One of my favorite stories goes like this. The NUT asks a group of pre-surgery clients how long it will take to drink a 4oz cup of Water. The answers vary from 5-30 seconds. The NUT then tells them that the day after the surgery, it will take 15-30 minutes - and it will feel like that's as fast as they can do it. NO ONE believes this. The days after my surgery, I am recovering and existing on Water and Italian Ice. As promised, it takes me 30 minutes to drink a cup of water, and the cup of Italian Ice (Lemon) takes about 5 hours to "finish".

This is NOT a diet as you know it. This is a BIG change to your capacity and desire for foods. This is a decision that you will be VERY HAPPY that you made. God Bless.

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I have gen through two surgeries, both I feel have been successful. (The first surgery, lapband was removed after causing other medical issues, 7 years later. But lost and kept off 120 -140 lbs)

Once it came out I gained almost all my weight back.

I am a food addict and binge eater, so my capacity to hurt myself through eating after a month of great choices is always there. Loose a couple pounds only to gain 10 over a weekend of binge eating.

My second surgery was the sleeve, and it is great! I've lost 55 pounds in 2 months. My appetite is no longer the major driver, but I gave 47 years of a food relationship that I need to continue to change. The smaller stomach gives me a wall I run into whenever I want to binge.

But it also only works if I am following the program the other 97% of the time.

I do not drink soda, I follow the plan, but I still have emotional triggers that she need to keep in check.

If you break all the rules, your mind will find ways to override the surgery. ( that is why success rates are not 100% and this forum is used by all of us still in the fight.

To be successful

- have a good dr

- commit to yourself, you will follow the plan

- stay committed long term.

Surgery has little to do with the last two bullets, but surgery assists you to accomplish them.

In many ways I failed my first surgery, because I didn't make enough changes to function without it. It was very humbling to realize that. But at the end of the day, I rather struggle to gain control of my eating at 225 instead of 375.

I did not want to become diabetic, heart disease and all the other issues I faced being so heavy. Surgery gives you a lot of momentum to make good choices, then it's up to ourselves to take advantage of that momentum or ignore it and return to our unhealthy relationship with food.

Hope this helps- best of luck

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I appreciate the help. I come from were I believe a lot of men come from for high school weighing 250 and working out every day to gaining some in college and going back to around 230. To finally taking a desk job and ballooning from there to where I am now at 420. I have a desire to workout, to play basketball to be active to be muscular strong again not just big guy strong. I worry about my mentality of being complacent if I reach a goal weight and letting go a little I ate a huge burrito today because I could not because I had to. I want to learn how to stop after one bite in future not keep filling myself. Maybe the worry is good for me it will keep me going. Like was said earlier I would rather struggle at 225

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