It absolutely makes NO freaking sense to me... **MY RANT**

[LipstickLady 25,682]

I get it. Sometimes I'm incredulous and other times I manage to look the other way. The latter is more productive for me. It's one thing to waste time on myself, quite another to waste it on a stranger. Yet I know I'll be sucked in again. A favorite are the ones hoping not to be required to lose weight pre-surgery, preferring to keep gorging until the OR. They get major huffy when I write that surgery is a grown-up proposition and losing weight prior announces that one is serious.

Hope you feel better for ranting.

I'm not real good at looking away if you haven't noticed.

Why? Because there are SO MANY LURKERS in this forum who are reading, reading, reading and if no one speaks up, they are absorbing bad advice and patronizing warm fuzzy validations.

Am I wasting my time? Absolutely. Am I ever going to win any popularity contests for having strong opinions and a big mouth? Probably not. (And I really don't care. I have real life friends who live outside my computer.) Did I get my fair share of finger shakes', eye rolls and kicks in the pants as I went through this process? YUP. Did I learn from those "meanies"? Without a doubt (and DANG I miss them!!) Was I always happy about it? NO FREAKING WAY. But I listened and ultimately, I earned back my health and a MUCH smaller number on the scale.

Giving myself permission to eat what I wanted against the advice of WWs and Jenny Craig and Atkins and South Beach and my doctor got me to 264 pounds. Clearly I **didn't** know my body best and caving to the head hunger and cravings did some permanent damage to my body that can never be undone.

So if even one person can be reached and jolted back into their new reality of WLS, FABULOUS. That's why I waste my time.

No, they are not absorbing bad advice even if lurking they are reading it all.. I do.. And perhaps some of the snide impatient comments I'll make them not want to pose their question?.. Just a thought.. Not everyone is.. Hmmmm what word.. Self confident n secure as you are? So although it seems like a stupid question to you.. Thy need assurance 1 way or another.. Some people need hand held.. Some of us don't.. If you see a post by 1 of those people you have no patience for.. Then move past it

Munky

If no one opposes the bad advice, it will seemingly be good advice, though, wouldn't you imagine? And please tell me when/where I have ever called someone (or their question) stupid? Nope. You can't because I don't.

I'm not going to pander to anyone and I am not going to change who I am because some people want validation to eat ... let's see, just in the last few days alone ... ice cream, swedish fish, Pasta, noodles and rice just days and weeks post op. Nope. Not going to validate it and I'm not going to just move past it.

Sorry, not sorry.

[MaryCatherine 173]

​ If you were teaching a class and gave a test, would every student get 100%? People have different levels of intelligence and dedication. Some will be weight loss surgery superstars, some will be total failures, and most will be a degree of average.

[blizair09 3,250]

​ If you were teaching a class and gave a test, would every student get 100%? People have different levels of intelligence and dedication. Some will be weight loss surgery superstars, some will be total failures, and most will be a degree of average.

True, but when I was teaching, I didn't want the average grade to be below a C, and I didn't want a large majority of the class to fail. If that happened, then I didn't do my job very well.

I don't think the issue is about people asking questions to gain knowledge. The issue is that they are asking ridiculous questions that anyone that was going to pursue this type of procedure and commit to the lifelong changes they have to make wouldn't be asking.

To re-link this to the grades metaphor, if the people who have recently asked about eating pizza, tacos, ice cream, pork chops, Pasta, rice, candy, etc. a mere days after surgery or the people who have asked about getting hammered during their pre-op diet or right after surgery were the students, then they more than failed this test and their surgeon and his/her staff should re-teach the unit or consider leaving the classroom.

[LipstickLady 25,682]

When I was teaching, I circled wrong test answers in RED (gasp) and offered help finding the solutions. I didn't grade on a curve nor did I tell them their math work was "good enough this time". I also did not tell them that they could ignore all the formulas and just pray their answer would turn out ok, and yes, I absolutely made them show their work.

Why?

Because not only did I want them to pass MY math class, but I wanted them to have an awesome, STRONG foundation on which to base all their math classes to follow.

Weird, right?

[blizair09 3,250]

We could go on with this metaphor for days. This board could be (and should be) like intervention when initial instruction didn't take (or students weren't ready for that instruction). It shouldn't be the initial instruction itself, and it shouldn't enable people to keep making the same mistakes or having the same misconceptions over and over again. Sigh.

Very cool you were a math teacher. I started my career in the high school math classroom. :-)

Edited October 14, 2016 by blizair09

[ProudGrammy 8,322]

@@LipstickLady

just saw this similar thread from august 2014

thought i'd repost

is that ok?

or are you going to kick me to the curb

http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/315715-why-are-some-weight-loss-surgery-patients-so-clueless/page-15

[4MRB4PHOTO 3,899]

Really the only time I give a rats patootie anymore about what someone is eating post op is when they are early out and can actually injure themselves. Yeah, I'm going to say something whether they like it or not just to try to make them understand that bodily injury can occur before they're fully healed.

Otherwise, have at it. Eat whatever you want if it works for you. And if it doesn't, then who am I to tell someone they weren't ready for the surgery? I'm sure they themselves already know.

Me? I was ready. And I'm totally willing to throw a little advice someone's way if they show they are, too. Usually the ones who can take a little constructive criticism, are thirsty for knowledge, don't think they already know it all (because who does?), and open to different advice without getting completely defensive are the ones who are ready for the changes that need to happen with the surgery. They don't want validation, just information.

Is a rat's patootie allowed starting the soft Protein phase?

[OzRoo 1,492]

Is a rat's patootie allowed starting the soft Protein phase?

Like : "give a rat's ass" ?

Or, a Cutie patootie ??? I'd rather the Cutie one

[SoDoneGah! 2]

@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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[LisaMergs 2,854]

@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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Can't answer for the poster you referenced, but docs aren't going to take you off antidepressants for surgery. Celebrex is an anti inflammatory drug and can impact the lining of the stomach....

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[rolosmom7 740]

@@rolosmom7 Is there a reason they made you stop your Celebrex? I'm on Wellbutrin and Zoloft but the surgeon hasn't mentioned getting off or cutting back?

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Yes, celebrex is an NSAID. It's the only med I stopped.

[missgeri 2]

Right on well said. AMEN

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[SoDoneGah! 2]

Thanks!

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Thank!

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[Recycled 2,182]

Figured it out gl some of u people act worse then my kids this is why I don't do Facebook and now I'm leaving this site too much drama

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Let's see.......Go visit a prison.......find criminals there...

Visit the "Rants and Raves" section......find drama

Go to a Monks retreat on top of a mountain.........find no one talking.....

Hey, I know where you can go....

[MsShortyDee 160]

I appreciate the advice in this forum. I start my pre-op this Sunday. I promised myself that I would only eat a little stuffing. I don't want my surgery to get cancelled. I'm ready to make this change. I have all of you to help me through this journey. I don't deal with the negativity. Scroll pass. I don't deal with the negativity from the few people that I have told including my birth mother. This is a decision I made to get me to healthy.

MsShortyDee