Ok I'm disappointed, not necessarily upset over this. I'd like to know the science behind this. I like to know how things work.

So this week I was told that the "eat more calories and busy through a stall" thing is a myth. But why did I lose faster doing weight watchers eating about 1300 calories a day? Or vegan eating probably close to 1500 calories a day. Or Atkins eating a ton! (I know, Ketosis, but I lost slow in Ketosis on this 'diet' too.

Now. I'm thrilled to pieces about the sleeve. For once in my life I feel like this is going to last. This is working. I just wonder why so slow?

/rant

Ps the last month I've lost

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What the heck? On all 3 other diets I lost about 5/week. For weeks on end. Especially vegan. I remember getting on the scales every week and seeing a 6 lb loss. I'm working out a lot now and I was doing the same exercises then.

It just doesn't make sense to me and I'd love to get all technical. This is making me wonder if I need more calories. Or if I need to eat more than 20 carbs etc. if I lost 3-6 lbs a week doing weight watchers, maybe I need to go back up to 1200 calories with a lot of Fiber etc. I feel confused.

I would say yes' date=' but do work up to any changes you want to make. It has taken me months to go from 1100 calories to an average of 1600 calories. Likewise I have also worked my way up from 125 grams Protein to 170 grams. This is 684 calories for 170 grams of protein. The rest of the calories come from good carbs and good fats along with vegetables. As you know I am also fairly active. You need to include your fitness levels when determining caloric intake. I basically eat every 2-3 hours about 200 (sometimes more sometimes less) calories giving me about 1600 calories.[/quote']

Aw man, you didn't answer me! (Temper tantrum). I think my calculator I found was on drugs for an answer of 2,500 calories. So. Now what? I'll try another one.

Aw man' date=' you didn't answer me! (Temper tantrum). I think my calculator I found was on drugs for an answer of 2,500 calories. So. Now what? I'll try another one.[/quote']

Look at the one I just put up!

And why do you have to give up your Protein shake??

This thing is telling me to eat more!!

Had to chime in on this one.... I to have been struggling with this thinking off and on. Mostly' date=' on when the scale has stalled or only reads a 1 lbs loss that week. However, I will never forget the surgeon telling me the expectations for this surgery. She said: Most sleeved folks lose 50 to 70 %. Of their excess body wieght after "2 years" I was floored I said 2 years??? What???? Most of us are way ahead of the expected mark if we really stop and consider the numbers! Anyway, that is how I get through the tough "mental times".

Honestly, I do not know if I will ever understand the "why's" ..... I hope you all find the answers you are looking for.... Best wishes" Tina[/quote']

See that's what I've been doing the last couple of weeks allowing myself time! I said a year is when I will say if I'm doing well or not.

I won't then, garsh!! Lol. Don't want to anyway!!

Ok. Mfp is putting me At 1200 calories a day when I entered that I'm lightly active and want to lose 2 lbs a week.

I think lightly active is correct anyway. Their options are strange. No option for "I burn ____ a day".

Oh and that One has a part that says "formula." no clue what thy want from me there.

Oh and that One has a part that says "formula." no clue what thy want from me there.

I just left it at the "top" boxed checked for formula..

Ok I gotta go I think I need to eat some more tonight where's the cake! (Just kidding)

Cake? Did someone say cake? I heart cake.

Cake? Did someone say cake? I heart cake.

HA! I told my daughter that I forgot to order her cake at the bakery' date=' but I got lucky and they had a cake someone never picked up..

She fell for it:p

Aw man' date=' you didn't answer me! (Temper tantrum). I think my calculator I found was on drugs for an answer of 2,500 calories. So. Now what? I'll try another one.[/quote']

Sorry Amy, I spent my energy on a response to Laura and forgot about your question above it. do not feel you need to give up your shakes if you desire them. I love my daily Protein shakes and use (abuse??) them to my advantage!

2500 may be correct for you depending on your inputs. mine is high also. There is little way I can eat enough real food to hit my targets when striving for BMR equilibrium. I am probably still way under as a fairly active guy. 1 hour of quality workout MAX, most of the time 30 minutes. However, know that each session is high quality and focused for max returns, no boring workouts here. I have spent the last 3 months slowly increasing calories, but I still have more to go. I have to be careful about it because it is a constant balancing act. Too little and the BMR suffers. Too much and you start to store. Presently I believe I am in a sort of sweet spot but do feel I am going to need to eat more once my transformation program kicks into high gear. I am learning along the way. maybe I will need to eat those 400 calorie metrx bars. My wife always talks me down from buying them every time I pick one up at the store

I use shakes to help fill in calories and protein during the day. I won't bore you with all the details (for that, see prior threads), but will say I drink up to 3 shakes a day. The first shake when I wake is more out of convenience. I do not really have the time to make something nor have the time to spend eating it as work beckons at 6 am. The second shake is to recover from my training or running. The 3rd shake is to satisfy my BMR during the night. After all, we want to be burning fat and building muscles around the clock, even when sleeping. If you take a shake at bed time, make sure it is a long acting protein like casein. I always find real measurable results in the morning whenever I take that last bedtime shake.

I just left it at the "top" boxed checked for formula..

Ok I gotta go I think I need to eat some more tonight where's the cake! (Just kidding)

I have a box of apple fritters fed ex to you....

HA! I told my daughter that I forgot to order her cake at the bakery' date=' but I got lucky and they had a cake someone never picked up..

She fell for it:p

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Ha! Is that you eating the little frosting pieces off the edge of the cake? I would have totally done that if I was crazed for some cake which I have definitely been guilty of in the past. just ribbin you a little between friends.

Ha! Is that you eating the little frosting pieces off the edge of the cake? I would have totally done that if I was crazed for some cake which I have definitely been guilty of in the past. just ribbin you a little between friends.

Haha! It figures you would notice that! And no, I wasn't the piggy that did that my 17 year old skinny daughter did

One question I have..I have these restrictions of not drinking an hour after meals..do you do that as well? I am not sure I can eat every couple of hours and get all my water in too.